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India's Superpower Euphoria: Sid Harth

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Insider-Trading Arrest Hits Home in India

Accused Executive Was a Boardroom Trailblazer and Helped Found One of the Country's Top Business Schools

By SHEFALI ANAND in New Delhi and MEGHA BAHREE in Mumbai

Few Indian executives have achieved the stature that Rajat Gupta held in global business, a position that made him an icon for many in India seeking to rise in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Associated PressFAVORITE SON: Rajat Gupta, left, received a lifetime achievement award from then-Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, right, in 2003.

So Mr. Gupta's indictment Wednesday was greeted with a mix of surprise, sadness and even some anger in India's tightly knit business community. It also prompted some concern that his arrest might reflect poorly on Indian executives in general, though Mr. Gupta, the former chief executive of consulting firm McKinsey & Co., has lived for many decades in the U.S.

"There's a sense of shock because everybody had looked up to him," said Aparna Sharma, president of Noam Management Consulting Pvt., a consulting firm in Gurgaon, near New Delhi.

Federal prosecutors in New York have accused Mr. Gupta of passing non-public information to hedge-fund titan Raj Rajaratnam, information allegedly gleaned from Mr. Gupta's role as a director at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Procter & Gamble Co.

WSJ legal reporter Ashby Jones stops by Mean Street to discuss former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta's indictment on charges of leaking inside information.

Mr. Rajaratnam, founder of the Galleon Group hedge fund, used the information for his financial benefit. Mr. Rajaratnam was recently sentenced to 11 years in prison for insider trading.

Mr. Gupta, 62 years old, has maintained he is not guilty and has been released on bail.

Furthering concerns about fallout on the image of Indian business in general is the strong South Asian component in what prosecutors say was a major insider trading ring. Mr. Rajaratnam is from Sri Lanka. Anil Kumar, a former McKinsey & Co. partner of Indian origin, has also pleaded guilty as part of the probe.

Mr. Gupta was McKinsey's chief executive from 1994 until 2003. McKinsey was one of a few global companies, including Citigroup Inc.'s Citibank, where many Indians made their careers, but Mr. Gupta was the first to get the top job at a multinational, highly-reputable firm. He blazed the trail for other Indians who have joined the rarified club of multinational CEOs including Citigroup Inc. Chief Executive Vikram Pandit and PepsiCo Chairman Indra Nooyi.

As such, he was an inspiration to executives in India and to Indian-American executives in the U.S.

Getty ImagesRajat Gupta left a New York courthouse on Wednesday after his arrest in connection with a huge insider-trading case.

Though Mr. Gupta, who was born in Kolkata and studied at the Indian Institute of Technology in Delhi, left India for the U.S. in the early seventies, he routinely visited India.

He maintained close ties with senior business leaders in India and was also consulted by the Indian government on policy issues. Several friends and former colleagues in India's small circle of internationally-minded executives declined to speak about him, saying they were mystified by the turn of events.

"He was a hero from an Indian perspective," said Richard Rekhy, head of advisory services for consulting firm KPMG in India. "You don't expect someone of that kind of caliber" to be mentioned in the context of any wrongdoing.

In a nation where education has been dominated by the government and, aside from a few institutions, is not highly-ranked globally, Mr. Gupta also broke the mold. One of Mr. Gupta's most significant contributions to his home country was to co-found the Indian School of Business in Hyderabad, a management school that flies in faculty from around the globe. Mr. Gupta raised funding for the school and set up academic partnerships with prominent U.S. schools like the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University and the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.

Mr. Gupta was chairman of the Indian School of Business from 2001 until earlier this year, when he resigned. Mr. Kumar, the former McKinsey partner, was a co-founder of the school. A spokesman for the Indian School of Business declined to comment.

Mr. Gupta's indictment has prompted anger among some who say his prominence means that his arrest will now reflect badly on Indian managers in general.

"I was distressed," said Suhel Seth, managing partner of Counselage India, a New Delhi-based branding consultancy. It "is such gross irony that here's a man who founded a business school that is supposed to train in ethics" the next generation of managers.

Mr. Gupta was also the driving force behind the Public Health Foundation of India, a public-private partnership whose charter is to conduct policy research, establish accreditation standards in public health education, and set up public health schools in the country. A poor healthcare system and its inability to tackle basic problems such as child malnutrition is one of India's most pressing problems.

In 2003, then-Indian Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee gave Mr. Gupta a lifetime-achievement award.

Some Indian business leaders maintain that this case will not affect India's image in the world because there remain several prominent Indians in top positions in corporate America.

"I don't think this is about India," said Som Mittal, president of the National Association of Software and Services Companies, an industry body. "But since he was such an icon and he did so much, there's a sense of disbelief and disappointment."

Write to Shefali Anand at shefali.anand@wsj.com

Politics | Posted on Oct 28, 2011 at 10:39am IST

Rajat Gupta case a lesson for courts: Digvijaya

New Delhi: Congress general secretary Digvijaya Singh on Friday came out batting for a DMK MP Kanimozhi and former telecom minister A Raja, who are in Tihar jail for their role in the 2G spectrum allocation scam.

The congress leader said that the judiciary should take a cue from the Rajat Gupta case in the US and grant bail to undertrials, alluding to Kanimozhi and Raja.

Digvijaya posted a tweet saying, "Good to know Rajat Gupta got bail. Would our Judiciary also take a cue and not keep undertrials in lock-up once they are charge-sheeted."

Earlier, Union Law Minister Salman Khurshid had cautioned that investor sentiment would be hurt if courts ordered arrests of businessperson.

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Digvijaya Singh is known for his charades. Why is he defending Rajat Gupta? Let me quote the Wall Street Journal article.

OCTOBER 28, 2011

Insider-Trading Arrest Hits Home in India

Accused Executive Was a Boardroom Trailblazer and Helped Found One of the Country's Top Business Schools

By SHEFALI ANAND in New Delhi and MEGHA BAHREE in Mumbai

FAVORITE SON: Rajat Gupta, left, received a lifetime achievement award from then-Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, right, in 2003.

So Mr. Gupta's indictment Wednesday was greeted with a mix of surprise, sadness and even some anger in India's tightly knit business community. It also prompted some concern that his arrest might reflect poorly on Indian executives in general, though Mr. Gupta, the former chief executive of consulting firm McKinsey & Co., has lived for many decades in the U.S.

"There's a sense of shock because everybody had looked up to him," said Aparna Sharma, president of Noam Management Consulting Pvt., a consulting firm in Gurgaon, near New Delhi.

Federal prosecutors in New York have accused Mr. Gupta of passing non-public information to hedge-fund titan Raj Rajaratnam, information allegedly gleaned from Mr. Gupta's role as a director at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Procter & Gamble Co.

WSJ legal reporter Ashby Jones stops by Mean Street to discuss former Goldman Sachs director Rajat Gupta's indictment on charges of leaking inside information.

Mr. Rajaratnam, founder of the Galleon Group hedge fund, used the information for his financial benefit. Mr. Rajaratnam was recently sentenced to 11 years in prison for insider trading.

Mr. Gupta, 62 years old, has maintained he is not guilty and has been released on bail.

...and I am Sid Harth@arabuhuru.com

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Eingeweiht-Handelnanhalten schlägt nach Hause in Indien

Beschuldigter Hauptleiter war ein SitzungssaalTrailblazer und geholfener gefundener der der Spitzenwirtschaftsschulen des Landes

Durch SHEFALI ANAND in Neu-Delhi und MEGHA BAHREE in Mumbai

Wenige indische Hauptleiter haben die Statur, die Rajat Gupta im globalen Geschäft hielt, eine Position erzielt, die ihn eine Ikone für viele in Indien bildete, das anderwohin sucht zu steigen in den US und.

Verbundener PressFAVORITE SOHN: Rajat Gupta, link, empfing einen Lebenswerkpreis vom dann-Hauptminister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Recht, 2003.

So wurde Anklage Mittwoch Herrn Guptas mit einer Mischung der Überraschung gegrüßt, der Traurigkeit und sogar etwas Zornes in festem Indien - stricken Sie Geschäftswelt. Es forderte auch gewisse Bedenken, dass sein Anhalten über indische Hauptleiter schlecht im Allgemeinen, zwar nachdenken konnte Herr Gupta, der ehemalige Hauptgeschäftsführer des Beratungsunternehmens McKinsey u. Co., hat gelebt für viele Dekaden in den US auf.

„Es gibt eine Richtung des Schlages, weil jeder oben zu ihm geschaut hatte,“ sagte Aparna Sharma, Präsident der Noam Unternehmensberatung Pvt., ein Beratungsunternehmen in Gurgaon, nahe Neu-Delhi.

Bundesverfolger in New York haben Herrn Gupta von der Vermittlung der nicht öffentlichen Informationen zu Hecke-finanzieren Titanen Raj Rajaratnam, die Informationen beschuldigt, die angeblich von der Rolle Herrn Guptas als Direktor an Goldman Sachs Group Inc. und an Procter & Gamble Co. aufgelesen werden

WSJ zugelassener Reporter Ashby Jones hält bei sich Mittelstraße kurz auf, um ehemaliges Anklage des Goldman Sachsdirektors Rajat Guptas auf Gebühren des Leckens der inneren Informationen zu besprechen.

Herr Rajaratnam, Gründer des Galleon Gruppen-spekulativen Fonds, verwendete die Informationen für seinen Vermögensvorteil. Herr Rajaratnam wurde vor kurzem zu 11 Jahren im Gefängnis für Insiderhandel verurteilt.

Herr Gupta, 62 Jahre alt, hat beibehalten ihn ist nicht schuldig und ist freigegeben worden auf Kaution.

Interessen über radioaktiven Niederschlag auf dem Bild des indischen Geschäfts zu fördern ist im Allgemeinen der starke asiatische Südbestandteil in, welchen Verfolgern waren ein HauptInsiderhandelring sagen. Herr Rajaratnam kommt aus Sri Lanka. Anil Kumar, ein ehemaliger McKinsey u. Co.-Partner des indischen Ursprung, hat auch schuldiges als Teil der Prüfspitze plädiert.

Herr Gupta war McKinseys Hauptgeschäftsführer von 1994 bis 2003. McKinsey war eine einiger globaler Firmen, einschließlich Citigroup Inc. Citibank, in dem viele Inder ihre Karrieren bildeten, aber Herr Gupta war der erste, zum des Spitzenjobs an einem multinationalen, hoch-hochwertigen Unternehmen zu erhalten. Er flammte die Spur für andere Inder, die die verdünnte Verein multinationaler CEOs einschließlich Citigroup Inc.-Hauptgeschäftsführer Vikram Pandit und Pepsico-Vorsitzend-INDRA Nooyi verbunden haben.

Als solches war er eine Inspiration zu den Hauptleitern in Indien und zu den Indisch-Amerikanischen Hauptleitern in den US.

Getty ImagesRajat Gupta verließ ein New- Yorkgericht am Mittwoch nach seinem Anhalten in Zusammenhang mit einem sehr großen Eingeweiht-handelnfall.

Zwar verließ Herr Gupta, der in Kolkata geboren war und an der indischen Fachhochschule in Delhi studiert, Indien für die US in die frühen Siebziger, er besichtigte routinemäßig Indien.

Er behielt enge Beziehungen mit älteren führenden Vertreter der Wirtschaftn in Indien bei und wurde auch von der indischen Regierung auf politischen Streitpunkten konsultiert. Einige Freunde und ehemalige Kollegen Indiens im kleinen Kreis der international-gekümmerten Hauptleiter lehnten es ab, über ihn zu sprechen und sagten sie, wurden verwirrt durch die Wende.

„Er war ein Held von einer indischen Perspektive,“, sagte Richard Rekhy, Kopf der Beratungsdienste für Beratungsunternehmen KPMG in Indien. „Sie erwarten nicht jemand von dem, das vom Kaliber“, im Rahmen irgendeines Vergehens erwähnt zu werden freundlich ist.

In einer Nation, ist beherrscht worden, in der Ausbildung von der Regierung und, neben einigen Anstalten, nicht global, Herr Gupta brach auch die Form hoch-geordnet wird. Einer von bedeutendsten Beiträgen Herrn Guptas zu seinem Heimatland war co-found die indische Schule des Geschäfts in Hyderabad, eine Managementschule, die in Lehrkörper um von der Kugel fliegt. Herr Gupta hob Finanzierung für die akademischen Teilhaberschaften der Schule und der Einstellung mit vorstehenden US-Schulen wie der Kellogg-Schule des Managements an der Northwestern-Universität und der Wharton Schule an der Universität von Pennsylvanien an.

Herr Gupta war Vorsitzender der indischen Schule des Geschäfts von 2001 bis Anfang des Jahres, als er zurücktrat. Herr Kumar, der ehemalige McKinsey Partner, war ein Mitbegründer der Schule. Ein Sprecher für die indische Schule des Geschäfts lehnte es ab zu kommentieren.

Anklage Herrn Guptas hat Zorn unter einigen aufgefordert, die sagen, dass sein Vorsprung bedeutet, dass sein Anhalten jetzt schlecht über indische Manager im Allgemeinen nachdenkt.

„Ich wurde,“ beunruhigt, sagte Suhel Seth, geschäftsführender geschäftsführenderer Gesellschafter von Counselage Indien, eine neue Delhi-gegründete einbrennende Beratung. Es „ist solche grobe Ironie, die hier ein Mann ist, der eine Wirtschaftsschule gründete, die in der Ethik“ das folgende Erzeugung der Manager ausbilden soll.

Herr Gupta war auch die treibende Kraft hinter der öffentliches Gesundheitswesen-Grundlage von Indien, eine öffentlich-private Teilhaberschaft, deren Charter, Politikforschung zu leiten ist, herstellen Gesundheitsausbildung der Beglaubigungsstandards öffentlich und Schulen des öffentlichen Gesundheitswesens der Einstellung im Land. Ein armes Gesundheitssystem und seine Unfähigkeit, grundlegende Probleme wie Kindunterernährung anzugehen ist eins von Indiens dringend zu lösendsten Problemen.

2003 gab dann-Indischer Premierminister Atal Bihari Vajpayee Herrn Gupta einen Lebenszeitausführung Preis.

Einige indische führende Vertreter der Wirtschaftn behalten bei, dass dieser Fall nicht Indiens Bild in der Welt beeinflußt, weil einige vorstehende Inder in den Spitzenpositionen in Unternehmensamerika bleiben.

„Ich denke nicht, dass dieses über Indien,“ ist, sagte Som Mittal, Präsident der nationalen Verbindung von Software und von Service-Firmen, ein Industriekörper. „Aber, da er solch eine Ikone war und er tat soviel, gibt es eine Richtung der Ungläubigkeit und der Enttäuschung.“

Schreiben Sie Shefali Anand an shefali.anand@wsj.com

Politik | Bekannt gegeben am 28. Oktober 2011 an 10:39 morgens IST

Rajat Gupta Fall eine Lektion für Gerichte: Digvijaya

Neu-Delhi: Generalsekretär Digvijaya Singh des Kongresses am Freitag kam heraus, schlagend für eine DMK Wartungstafel Kanimozhi und ehemaliger Telekommunikationsminister Raja, das im Tihar Gefängnis für ihre Rolle im Verteilungs-Betrug des Spektrums 2G sind.

Der Kongreßführer sagte, dass die Justizgewalt ein Stichwort vom Rajat Gupta Fall in den US nehmen und Kaution undertrials bewilligen sollte und zu Kanimozhi und zu Raja anspielen.

Digvijaya gab ein Tweet-Sprechen bekannt, „gut, Rajat Gupta erhaltene Kaution zu kennen. Würde unsere Justizgewalt auch ein Stichwort nehmen und undertrials nicht in der Festlegung halten, sobald sie werden aufladen-bedeckt.“

Früh hatte Anschluss-Gesetz-Minister Salman Khurshid gewarnt, dass Investorgefühl Schmerzen sein würde, wenn Gerichte Anhalten des Wirtschaftlers verfügten.

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28. OKTOBER 2011

Eingeweiht-Handelnanhalten schlägt nach Hause in Indien

Beschuldigter Hauptleiter war ein SitzungssaalTrailblazer und geholfener gefundener der der Spitzenwirtschaftsschulen des Landes

Durch SHEFALI ANAND in Neu-Delhi und MEGHA BAHREE in Mumbai

LIEBLINGSsohn: Rajat Gupta, link, empfing einen Lebenswerkpreis vom dann-Hauptminister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Recht, 2003.

So wurde Anklage Mittwoch Herrn Guptas mit einer Mischung der Überraschung gegrüßt, der Traurigkeit und sogar etwas Zornes in festem Indien - stricken Sie Geschäftswelt. Es forderte auch gewisse Bedenken, dass sein Anhalten über indische Hauptleiter schlecht im Allgemeinen, zwar nachdenken konnte Herr Gupta, der ehemalige Hauptgeschäftsführer des Beratungsunternehmens McKinsey u. Co., hat gelebt für viele Dekaden in den US auf.

„Es gibt eine Richtung des Schlages, weil jeder oben zu ihm geschaut hatte,“ sagte Aparna Sharma, Präsident der Noam Unternehmensberatung Pvt., ein Beratungsunternehmen in Gurgaon, nahe Neu-Delhi.

Bundesverfolger in New York haben Herrn Gupta von der Vermittlung der nicht öffentlichen Informationen zu Hecke-finanzieren Titanen Raj Rajaratnam, die Informationen beschuldigt, die angeblich von der Rolle Herrn Guptas als Direktor an Goldman Sachs Group Inc. und an Procter & Gamble Co. aufgelesen werden

WSJ zugelassener Reporter Ashby Jones hält bei sich Mittelstraße kurz auf, um ehemaliges Anklage des Goldman Sachsdirektors Rajat Guptas auf Gebühren des Leckens der inneren Informationen zu besprechen.

Herr Rajaratnam, Gründer des Galleon Gruppen-spekulativen Fonds, verwendete die Informationen für seinen Vermögensvorteil. Herr Rajaratnam wurde vor kurzem zu 11 Jahren im Gefängnis für Insiderhandel verurteilt.

Herr Gupta, 62 Jahre alt, hat beibehalten ihn ist nicht schuldig und ist freigegeben worden auf Kaution.

… und ich sind SID Harth@arabuhuru.com

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After Ramdev, Anna, Sri Sri is Plan C of RSS-BJP: Digvijaya
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Upping the ante, Congress leader Digvijaya Singh on Thursday alleged that the anti-corruption stir by Anna Hazare and Ramdev were part of an over-all plan of RSS-BJP to divert attention from Sangh's "terror links" and warned spiritual guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar that he too could be used by them. The AICC general secretary said that while Ramdev and Anna Hazare were plan A and B of the Sangh-BJP, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is Plan C and asked the spiritual guru to be "wary" of the two organisations.
Singh remarked on the microblogging site Twitter "Plan A, B and C are of Sangh/ BJP to divert the minds of the people from their involvement in terror activities to corruption."
Later talking to reporters, he said that Plan A of this over-all scheme has been Baba Ramdev, B is Anna and C is Sri Sri Ravishankar.
"I hold Sri Ravi Shankarji in high esteem and have done a course in the Art of Living as CM MP in 2001. He should be wary of Sangh/ BJP," Singh remarked in another post on twitter.
Reacting to it, Sri Sri said, "People write so many things. I do not react to every comment. Everybody is entitled to his views."
Singh, however, told reporters that all this is a part of an over-all plan of RSS-BJP combine to "divert" the attention of the people of the country "to corruption from the issue of involvement of Sangh activists in terror activities" in Malegaon, Modasa, Hyderabad, Ajmersharif and Samjhouta Express."
Claiming that the UPA government under the leadership of Sonia Gandhi and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has taken "all posstible steps" including to bring Right to Information (RTI) Act and making Money Laundering (Prohibition) Act stricter to check corruption, Singh charged that BJP's record on action over charges of corruption has been "pathetic".

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My dear Digvijaya,

I am pissed off by your anti-RSS-BJP-VHP-ABVP-Something-or-other-Vichar-Manch-Bajrang Dal-Durga Vahiee,Ram Sene-Shiv Sena-Anna-Senile-Sena-Ramdev-Ran-de-Basanti-Sena.

They are number one in the hearts and minds of all Indians. Some, for no good reasons, call themselves Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, jains, and Skulaar.

Mohan Bhagwat101Ji has searched everybody's genes and declared that everybody who is a nobody is a patented Hindu.

Be careful. They, all, are coming to get you. You can run but you cannot hide from these devil worshiping goddamned Goondas.

Hide behind Sonia Gandhi. They worship her as their next Bharat Mataji.

Jee han, Oops, han jee.

...and I am Sid Harth@arabuhuru.net

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  • yawnnnnn......next please pigvijay
  • Shekar Gupta, Editor of Indian Express claims to have exposed the corruption of Kiran Bedi which is now known as inflated Air Ticket bill and claiming more than what actually paid. Kiran Bedi had clarified the matter and issue should end there because she has not been benefited by this inflated bills.  In fact she had donated the excess amount to the NGO. Great soul. 75% of the concession she had got on air ticket as being gallantry award winner and donating that amount to NGO is really appreciable.
    Now let us talk of these great exposure of corruption of Kiran Bedi like Shekar Gupta, Editor of Indian Express, Vinod Sharma, Editor of Hindustan  Times and Vinod Mehta, Editor of Outlook magazine. Have they not enjoyed the benefit of free air travel while going with dignitaries to the foreign countries.  Have they not enjoyed the hospitality of the Government while attending the Press Meet of Prime Minister.  Have they not got any preferential allotment of site etc being Editors of leading news paper.  Are they above corrupt. I throw a challenge to these editors to file an affidavit in any court that they have not got any free compliments from anybody. At least , Kiran Bedi won Gallantry award for her excellency in civil service.  What these Editors have done to the nation except serving their masters.
  • All these accusations & mud slanging , on people waging war against corruption is orchestrated for only one reason. Khangress will bring  "Joke pal bill" in parliament , and they want its passage, without protest/hitch.
    Can aam admi ( comprising of 1200million) afford the Joke pal bill ???

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    vandamer 5 minutes ago
    diggy doggy piggy- singh we are sure you have the zip in the back side of ur pants, dont forget to tell raul to wear condoms

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    ps parameswaran 8 minutes ago
    I TAUGHT ITS ONLY ITS DIGGY WHO HAS ESCAPED FROM MENTAL ASYLUM THERE A GROUP SUCH METAL MENTALS WHO HAVE ESCAPED AFTER BREAKING.
    HOPE THE GAURDS CAN TRACE AND PUT THEM BACK IN THEIR PLACE TO AVOID PUBLIC NUISANCE.
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Feed RSSNew DelhiDopo Ramdev, Anna, Sri Sri è il piano C di feed-BJP: DigvijayaPress Trust Of IndiaNuova Delhi, 27 ottobre 2011First Published: IST 14:00 (27/10/2011)Ultimo aggiornamento: IST 15:52 (27/10/2011)Condividi più ...247 CommentiPrint e-mailAlzando la posta, il Congresso capo Digvijaya Singh Giovedi sostenuto che l'anti-corruzione mescolare di Anna Hazare e Ramdev facevano parte di un piano globale di RSS-BJP per distogliere l'attenzione dal Sangh di "legami terroristici" e ha avvertito spirituale guru Sri Sri Ravi Shankar che anche lui potrebbe essere utilizzato dastorie legate

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L'AICC segretario generale ha detto che mentre Ramdev e Anna Hazare furono piano A e B del Sangh-Bjp, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar è il piano C e ha chiesto al guru spirituale di essere "prudente" delle due organizzazioni.
Singh ha osservato sul sito di microblogging Twitter "Piano A, B e C sono del Sangh / Bjp per deviare le menti delle persone dal loro coinvolgimento in attività terroristiche alla corruzione".
Più tardi parlando con i giornalisti, ha detto che il piano A di questa sovra-tutto regime è stato Baba Ramdev, è Anna B e C è di Sri Sri Ravishankar.
"Ritengo Sri Ravi Shankarji in alta considerazione e hanno fatto un corso di arte di vivere come CM MP nel 2001. Egli deve stare attenti a Sangh / BJP," Singh ha osservato in un altro post su Twitter.
Reagire ad essa, Sri Sri ha detto: "Le persone scrivono tante cose. Io non reagire a ogni commento. Ognuno ha diritto alle sue opinioni».
Singh, tuttavia, ha detto ai giornalisti che tutto questo è parte di un piano globale di RSS-BJP si combinano per "deviare" l'attenzione della gente del paese "per corruzione dalla questione del coinvolgimento di attivisti del Sangh in attività di terrorismo" a Malegaon, Modasa, Hyderabad, Ajmersharif e Samjhouta Express ".
Affermare che il governo UPA sotto la guida di Sonia Gandhi e il Primo Ministro Manmohan Singh ha preso "tutte le misure posstible", tra cui per portare diritto all'informazione (RTI) Act e facendo riciclaggio di denaro (Divieto) più severe per controllare la corruzione legge, Singh ha accusato BJP registrare su azione su accuse di corruzione è stato "patetico".più da questa sezione

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Mio caro Digvijaya,
Sono incazzato con il tuo anti-RSS-BJP-VHP-ABVP-Something-o-altre-Vichar-Manch-Bajrang Dal-Durga Vahiee, Ram Sene-Shiv Sena-Anna-senile-Sena-Ramdev-Ran-de- Basanti-Sena.
Sono il numero uno nei cuori e nelle menti di tutti gli indiani. Alcuni, senza buone ragioni, si definiscono musulmani, cristiani, sikh, buddhisti, giainisti, e Skulaar.
Mohan Bhagwat101Ji ha cercato i geni di tutti e ha dichiarato che tutti coloro che sono un nessuno è un sistema brevettato indù.
Stare attenti. Loro, tutti, stanno venendo a prenderti. È possibile eseguire, ma non si può nascondere da queste diavolo adorare goonda maledetto.
Nascondersi dietro Sonia Gandhi. Essi suo culto come il loro prossimo Bharat Mataji.
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    Ora parliamo di queste grande esposizione di corruzione di Kiran Bedi come Shekar Gupta, direttore di Indian Express, Vinod Sharma Editor di Hindustan Times e Vinod Mehta, direttore della rivista Outlook. Non hanno goduto il beneficio dei viaggi aerei gratis mentre andando con dignitari all'estero. Non hanno apprezzato l'ospitalità del governo mentre frequentava la stampa Incontro del Primo Ministro. Non hanno avuto alcun assegnazione preferenziale degli editori ecc sito sono di carta notizie principali. Sono sopra corrotti. Ho lanciare una sfida a questi editori di presentare una dichiarazione giurata in un tribunale che non si assume alcuna complimenti liberi da nessuno. Almeno, Kiran Bedi ha vinto il premio per la sua galanteria eccellenza nel servizio civile. Ciò che questi editori hanno fatto alla nazione se non servire i loro padroni.
   
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NEW DELHI: Amid talk of withdrawal of AFSPA from some areas of Jammu and Kashmir, Army Chief General V K Singh on Thursday said his force has given its inputs on the issue, but refused to specify those saying the matter was under the purview of the Home Ministry.

"This (Armed Forces Special Powers Act) is within the purview of the Ministry of Home Affairs. They are debating this and we have given our inputs. I would not like to say anything more," he told reporters on the sidelines of Infantry Day celebrations here.

Asked about NC leader Mustafa Kamal's remarks that the October 25 grenade blasts in Srinagar were orchestrated by the Army, Singh said, "Whosoever has given that comment, I think that does not deserve the courtesy of any remark from me".

Army has been advocating for continuing the Act on the grounds that it needed to deal with terrorism in the state.

Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah had yesterday said that the withdrawal of the Act from some districts of the state such as Srinagar, Badgam, Samba and Jammu was in no way an effort to undermine the role of the Army.

"The army is essentially playing a major role in anti-militancy operations in Jammu and Kashmir", he had said.

"Even the process of removal of AFSPA from certain areas of Jammu and Kashmir is being done in close consultation with the Army and other central paramilitary forces and their inputs and security concerns will be evaluated and considered while removing the footprint of AFSPA from certain parts of the state," he had said.

The chief minister had said that an attempt is being made to create an impression that the state government and the Army are working on divergent paths, which is not correct.

Omar had said that it is nobody's case to demonize the Army as the it has proved time and again that it is a disciplined force which is governed by certain standard operating procedures.

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I would rather Government of India repeal that devil of act, (Armed Forces Special Powers Act). I also believe in recycling of old acts, just rename it as Congress (Armed Forces) (Extra-Judicial murder, assassinations, Encounter-killings-murder-assassination) Extra Special Act, for a specific state, say Narendra-Modi-Sadbhavana-Bhoomi, Oops, Gujarat, Oops, Gujju-Rat. Perhaps in Ralegan Siddhi village in Maharashtra, Parner Taluka, Ahmednagar District.

Let there be regular army, Navy, Airforce and armed to teeth, "Congress Yuva Morcha" members demolishing anything and everything they consider as a threat to the safety, security and sanity of that region and kill, maim, murder, arrest without a warrant and/or cause and jail all. men, Women, children throwing stones and spitting on the sidewalks and the national flag. Oops, "Bhagwa Dhwaj" of RSS.

What is good for the Kashmir goose is good for the Gujju Rats and Marathi one-tongue-bandit, Oops, Fast unto death demon, Oops, bats, like Kisan Cabal.

...and I am Sid Harth@arabuhuru.net

 

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નવી દિલ્હી: AFSPA ઓફ જમ્મુ અને કાશ્મીર, આર્મી ચીફ ગુરુવાર પર સામાન્ય Vk સિંઘનો બોલ કેટલાક વિસ્તારોમાં માંથી ખસી ની વાત વચ્ચે જણાવ્યું હતું કે તેના બળ મુદ્દો તેના ઇનપુટ્સ આપવામાં આવી છે, પરંતુ સ્પષ્ટ કરવા માટે આ બાબત કહીને તે ઘર કાર્યક્ષેત્ર હેઠળ હતી ઇનકાર કર્યો મંત્રાલય.

"આ (આર્મ્ડ ફોર્સિસ ખાસ પાવર્સ એક્ટ) ઘર અફેર્સ મંત્રાલયના કાર્યક્ષેત્ર અંદર છે. તેઓ આ debating છે અને અમે અમારા ઇનપુટ્સ આપવામાં આવ્યું છે. તેમણે પાયદળ દિવસ અહીં ઉજવણી ના sidelines પર હું કાંઇ વધુ કહી ન ઈચ્છો "રિપોર્ટર્સથી જણાવ્યું હતું.

એનસી નેતા મુસ્તફા માતાનો કમલ નોંધ્યું છે કે શ્રીનગર માં ઓક્ટોબર 25 ગ્રેનેડ વિસ્ફોટમાં આર્મી દ્વારા orchestrated હતા વિશે પૂછવામાં આવતા, સિંઘ જણાવ્યું હતું કે, "Whosoever ટિપ્પણી કે, મને લાગે છે કે મને કોઇપણ ટીકા ના સૌજન્ય હકદાર નથી નથી આપવામાં આવી છે."

આર્મી કારણ કે તે માટે રાજ્ય આતંકવાદ સાથે સોદો જરૂરી પર એક્ટ ચાલુ માટે હિમાયત છે.

જમ્મુ અને કાશ્મીર મુખ્ય મંત્રી ઓમર અબ્દુલ્લા ગઇકાલે જણાવ્યું હતું કે શ્રીનગર, Badgam, Samba અને જમ્મુ જેમ કે રાજ્ય અમુક જીલ્લાઓ માંથી એક્ટ ઓફ ખસી કોઈ રીતે એક આર્મી ભૂમિકા ગુપ્ત રીતે પ્રયત્ન કરવામાં આવ્યો હતો.

"તેમણે લશ્કર જરૂરી જમ્મુ અને કાશ્મીર માં વિરોધી militancy કામગીરી મહત્વની ભૂમિકા રમી છે" કહ્યું હતું.

"પણ AFSPA ઓફ જમ્મુ અને કાશ્મીર અમુક ચોક્કસ વિસ્તારોમાં નિરાકરણ પ્રક્રિયાને સૈન્ય અને અન્ય કેન્દ્રિય અર્ધલશ્કરી દળો અને તેમના ઇનપુટ્સ અને સુરક્ષા ચિંતા સાથે બંધ પરામર્શ કરવામાં થાય છે અને મૂલ્યાંકન કરવામાં આવશે ગણવામાં જ્યારે કેટલાક ભાગોમાં માંથી AFSPA ના પદચિહ્ન દૂર રાજ્યના તે, "કહ્યું હતું.

મુખ્ય મંત્રી જણાવ્યું હતું કે પ્રયાસ કરવા માટે છાપ છે કે રાજ્ય સરકાર અને લશ્કર જુદીજુદી પાથ છે, જે યોગ્ય નથી પર કામ કરે છે બનાવવા કરવામાં આવે છે.

ઓમર જણાવ્યું હતું કે તે કોઇ કેસ છે આર્મી પિશાચ જેવું કરી નાખવું તે સમય સાબિત કરી છે અને ફરીથી છે કે તે એક શિસ્તબદ્ધ બળ કે જે અમુક ઓપરેટિંગ પ્રમાણભૂત પ્રક્રિયા દ્વારા થાય છે.
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ત્યાં દો નિયમિત આર્મી, નેવી, હવાઈ દળ અને સશસ્ત્ર દાંત માટે, "કોંગ્રેસ Yuva Morcha" કંઈપણ અને બધું તેઓ સુરક્ષા, અને તે પ્રદેશમાં સુરક્ષા સેનીટી માટે ધમકી તરીકે ગણે છે અને મારી નાંખવા માટે, હાથ - પગ કાપી નાખવાં, ખૂન તોડીને સભ્યો, ધરપકડ વોરંટ એક વિના અને બધી કારણ અને જેલ /. પુરૂષો, સ્ત્રીઓ, બાળકો, પત્થરો ઘા અને sidewalks અને રાષ્ટ્રીય ધ્વજ પર spitting. અરે, આરએસએસ અને "Bhagwa Dhwaj".

કાશ્મીર કલહંસ માટે સારી છે શું Gujju મોટા ઉંદરો અને મરાઠી એક જીભ-ડાકુ, અરે, મૃત્યુ રાક્ષસ સહી ફાસ્ટ, અરે, ચામાચીડીયા, Kisan તરકટ જેવા માટે સારી છે.

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Navī dil'hī: AFSPA ōpha jam'mu anē kāśmīra, ārmī cīpha guruvāra para sāmān'ya Vk siṅghanō bōla kēṭalāka vistārōmāṁ mānthī khasī nī vāta vaccē jaṇāvyuṁ hatuṁ kē tēnā baḷa muddō tēnā inapuṭsa āpavāmāṁ āvī chē, parantu spaṣṭa karavā māṭē ā bābata kahīnē tē ghara kāryakṣētra hēṭhaḷa hatī inakāra karyō Mantrālaya.

"Ā (ārmḍa phōrsisa khāsa pāvarsa ēkṭa) ghara aphērsa mantrālayanā kāryakṣētra andara chē. Tē'ō ā debating chē anē amē amārā inapuṭsa āpavāmāṁ āvyuṁ chē. Tēmaṇē pāyadaḷa divasa ahīṁ ujavaṇī nā sidelines para huṁ kāṁi vadhu kahī na īcchō"ripōrṭarsathī jaṇāvyuṁ hatuṁ.

Ēnasī nētā mustaphā mātānō kamala nōndhyuṁ chē kē śrīnagara māṁ ōkṭōbara 25 grēnēḍa visphōṭamāṁ ārmī dvārā orchestrated hatā viśē pūchavāmāṁ āvatā, siṅgha jaṇāvyuṁ hatuṁ kē, "Whosoever ṭippaṇī kē, manē lāgē chē kē manē kō'ipaṇa ṭīkā nā saujan'ya hakadāra nathī nathī āpavāmāṁ āvī chē."

Ārmī kāraṇa kē tē māṭē rājya ātaṅkavāda sāthē sōdō jarūrī para ēkṭa cālu māṭē himāyata chē.

Jam'mu anē kāśmīra mukhya mantrī ōmara abdullā ga'ikālē jaṇāvyuṁ hatuṁ kē śrīnagara, Badgam, Samba anē jam'mu jēma kē rājya amuka jīllā'ō mānthī ēkṭa ōpha khasī kō'ī rītē ēka ārmī bhūmikā gupta rītē prayatna karavāmāṁ āvyō hatō.

"Tēmaṇē laśkara jarūrī jam'mu anē kāśmīra māṁ virōdhī militancy kāmagīrī mahatvanī bhūmikā ramī chē" kahyuṁ hatuṁ.

"Paṇa AFSPA ōpha jam'mu anē kāśmīra amuka cōkkasa vistārōmāṁ nirākaraṇa prakriyānē sain'ya anē an'ya kēndriya ardhalaśkarī daḷō anē tēmanā inapuṭsa anē surakṣā cintā sāthē bandha parāmarśa karavāmāṁ thāya chē anē mūlyāṅkana karavāmāṁ āvaśē gaṇavāmāṁ jyārē kēṭalāka bhāgōmāṁ mānthī AFSPA nā padacihna dūra Rājyanā tē, "kahyuṁ hatuṁ.

Mukhya mantrī jaṇāvyuṁ hatuṁ kē prayāsa karavā māṭē chāpa chē kē rājya sarakāra anē laśkara judījudī pātha chē, jē yōgya nathī para kāma karē chē banāvavā karavāmāṁ āvē chē.

Ōmara jaṇāvyuṁ hatuṁ kē tē kō'i kēsa chē ārmī piśāca jēvuṁ karī nākhavuṁ tē samaya sābita karī chē anē pharīthī chē kē tē ēka śistabad'dha baḷa kē jē amuka ōparēṭiṅga pramāṇabhūta prakriyā dvārā thāya chē.
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Huṁ bhārata nirasana badalē sarakāra kē kr̥tya śētāna, (ārmḍa phōrsisa khāsa pāvarsa ēkṭa). Huṁ paṇa jūnā kr̥tyō risāyakliṅga mānē chē, mātra tē (ārmḍa phōrsisa) kōṅgrēsa (viśēṣa-n'yāyika hatyā, khūna, ēnkā'unṭara-hatyā-khūna-hatyā) viśēṣa khāsa adhiniyama tarīkē cōkkasa sthiti māṭē, nāma badalō, narēndra mōdī--Sadbhavana-kahē chē Bhoomi, arē, gujarāta, arē, Gujju-āra'ēṭī. Kadāca mahārāṣṭra, Parner tālukā, ahamadanagara jillā Ralegan sid'dhi gāma.

Tyāṁ dō niyamita ārmī, nēvī, havā'ī daḷa anē saśastra dānta māṭē, "kōṅgrēsa Yuva Morcha" kaṁīpaṇa anē badhuṁ tē'ō surakṣā, anē tē pradēśamāṁ surakṣā sēnīṭī māṭē dhamakī tarīkē gaṇē chē anē mārī nāṅkhavā māṭē, hātha - paga kāpī nākhavāṁ, khūna tōḍīnē sabhyō, dharapakaḍa vōraṇṭa ēka vinā Anē badhī kāraṇa anē jēla/. Purūṣō, strī'ō, bāḷakō, pat'tharō ghā anē sidewalks anē rāṣṭrīya dhvaja para spitting. Arē, āra'ēsa'ēsa anē"Bhagwa Dhwaj".

Kāśmīra kalahansa māṭē sārī chē śuṁ Gujju mōṭā undarō anē marāṭhī ēka jībha-ḍāku, arē, mr̥tyu rākṣasa sahī phāsṭa, arē, cāmācīḍīyā, Kisan tarakaṭa jēvā māṭē sārī chē.

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10/26/2011

India's Superpower Euphoria: Sid Harth


New York Times

Wednesday, October 26, 2011

Global EditionIndia

October 22, 2011, 2:58 am

Why I Left India (Again)

By SUMEDH MUNGEE
A car and two bullock carts make their way through traffic in Mumbai.Arko Datta/ReutersA car and two bullock carts make their way through traffic in Mumbai.

The Hindi movie on my “return to India” flight on Dec. 13th, 2006 was “Swades” (literally: “My country,” a story about a patriotic NASA engineer who returns to India to help improve his homeland).

The idea that you can fix India’s problems by adding more people to it — even smart people — is highly suspect. No, I wasn’t going back to fix things; I was leaving the U.S. to go back to Shri Thomas Friedman’s India: an India that offered global companies, continental food, international schools and domestic help; an India that offered freedom from outsourcing and George W. Bush.

I was excited about moving to India and I thought I had the right expectations—after being away for eleven years (I grew up in Mumbai), I was prepared for India to feel less like home and more like the  flight’s “Indian vegetarian meal”: visually familiar but viscerally alien.

Our move was a success by any metric. My wife and I are software professionals, and our careers flourished at an Indian rate of growth (R.I.P., “Hindu rate of growth”). Our daughter attended a preschool in Bangalore whose quality matched any in the Bay Area. Our three-bedroom flat in Defence Colony, Indiranagar, was so comfortable and so American-friendly that my friends called it the Green Zone.

And yet, two years and nine months after our move to India, on one of our regular evening jogs along our impossibly leafy street, my wife and I found ourselves discussing not whether we should return to the U.S., but when.

A month later, we were back in California.
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Anyone who’s written about India has at some point claimed that there are two or at most three Indias, whether “airplane India” or “scooter India” or “bullock cart India.” Maybe they stop at three because it is difficult for the reader to imagine more.

Early on, all the metaphors rang true. I’d see bullock-cart India beg from scooter India while scooter India was getting honked at by airplane India.

But then the metaphors started to fade and the daily grind set in. I stopped noticing India’s newness, oldness and juxtapositioned-ness. Within weeks, I had joined the honking swarm driving in Bangalore. I knew a guy who could repair anything from my daughter’s talking Barney to our Bose Wave radio. I could sweet-talk an auto-rickshaw driver into not fleecing me (even though I was Kannada-challenged). Everything felt familiar, normal, unremarkable, as it should be; I was in India.

That’s when it started going wrong.

Three months after our return, after a friend told me that his two children were sick with amoebiasis — he thought they got it from their maid — my wife and I designated a separate set of dinnerware for our maids. It’s more hygienic.

Within six months, I’d brusquely refused my driver an emergency loan of 500 rupees ($10) to attend his grandmother’s funeral. I’d learned my lesson after our previous driver scammed me into paying for his son’s broken leg (as it turned out, he had no son). It only encourages them to ask for more; besides, they’re all liars.

Near the first anniversary of our return, I had my first road-rage incident: I verbally abused a hawker who was blocking the road. I’m not going to let bullock-cart India make my daughter late for her school admission test.

The hawker glared but scampered away, the road cleared, and, as I walked back to my car, I saw something new and disturbing in my driver’s eyes: respect. I don’t know how my daughter felt because I couldn’t look her in the eye.

Was this even a real problem? Make your peace; it is how it is.At the end of a long phone call to my mother in Pune, she said, “Don’t think so much. Just work hard and you can get whatever you want.”

But I never doubted what I could get; I hated what I was becoming.

I struggled, I regressed, I improved, I tried learning from others — except so many seemed (to me, not to them) worse off: an offensive Sardar joke here (even the kids laughed), a not-so-subtle inquiry about my caste (I’m still furious with myself for answering), tips on how to keep our maid “in her place” — it just didn’t stop. Et tu, airplane India?

And so it goes.

In any breakup, there is this moment when a person who was a part of you just an instant ago becomes a surrealistically familiar stranger. After that moment, inertia and denial can only delay the inevitable.

On my last night in Bangalore I drank an egregious amount of my favorite takeout Chinese hot-and-sour vegetable soup, and I cried; I knew this second goodbye was final. When I first left India in 1996, I left for the U.S. When I left India in 2009, I left India.
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Why do I feel better in the U.S.? Maybe it’s not because I’m at home here, but because I’m an alien. Perhaps three thousand years of history have made us Indians a little too familiar with one another for our own good. We’ve perfected Malcolm Gladwell’s “blink” — the reflexive, addictive and tragically accurate placement of other Indians into bullock carts, scooters, airplanes and who knows what else. These issues exist in all countries, but in India, I could see the bigotry in high fidelity and hear the stereotypes in surround-sound — partly because it is worse in India, mostly because I am Indian.

India’s wealth and lifestyle disparity is still impossibly great; I probably spent more on pizza than on my maid. She knew this too, because she was often the one who handed the pizza delivery guy his money. Everyone in India has to deal with this, but I coped in the worst possible way: by dehumanizing her and other people like her, ever so slightly, ever so subtly — chronic amoebiasis of the soul.

Though my return to India failed, I came back feeling more optimistic than ever about India’s long-term success. India is regaining her leadership position — the position she held ever since humans were civilized, a position she lost only because of a few uncivilized humans (at least give us back our Koh-i-noor!). I know India will rule the future. It’s just that I’ve realized — I’ve resigned myself to the fact — that I won’t be a part of that future.

I’m glad I went back to India, and I’m glad to be back in the U.S. Life has come full circle but the center has shifted. I didn’t go to India to find home, but I did find it; I now know where I belong. As Laozi might have said, sometimes the journey of a single step starts with a thousand miles in the opposite direction.

(There was no Hindi movie on the flight back to the U.S. Or maybe I didn’t check.)
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Sumedh Mungee lives in the United States.

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curly wavy
Dubai
October 22nd, 2011
4:39 am
Now for a similar story from the Chinese perspective. Seriously NYT. Indians eat Chinese food because Chinese (and Tibetan) people came to India as refugees in the early days of the 20th century and set up hair salons and restaurants serving spicy noodles in every little town up and down the country and we were adventurous enough to try their food. We greatly admire our neighbour's success but also want a social and cultural perspective on what this change means for the Chinese poor and middle-class.
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Suneeta
Jaipur
October 22nd, 2011
4:39 am
Thanks for leaving! Your presence in India was of an UNWANTED guest.
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bayareadesi
San Francisco, CA
October 22nd, 2011
4:39 am
I wonder how many readers will get what Sumedh is trying to say but I get it. There is a lot of unwritten words and sentiments or rants in this blog but the writer is a quitter, he didn't have the courage to face it. I feel pity for you as I am sure you aren't any more happier here as you were in India.
Yes its easier for me to comment but when I go back it will be for good.
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Siddharth Kaushal
Delhi, India
October 22nd, 2011
4:40 am
"I know India will rule the future. It’s just that I’ve realized—I’ve resigned myself to the fact—that I won’t be a part of that future." This is powerfully moving!!! I completely understand what the author means!!

This is a very very honest reflection of a conscientious Indian. I experienced the same very starkly upon my return from a 6 month trip to Europe.

Sad thing is... the cultural consciousness of India has internalized this sub-humanizatoin, de-humanisation and subjugating social categorization. there is almost no painless way around it. It will only, if at all, improve incrementally as a result of diffusion of egalitarian values.

I think internationalising the discourse about the depravity and exploitation of "bullock cart" india might help trigger a beginning of change. I dont expect an internal movement to succeed.

this article reminds one of the booker prize winning novel by Aravind Adiga - the white tiger - which also details the daily humiliations that the countless Indian underclasses are inflicted with, as a matter of culturally sanctioned custom. You are welcome to check out a review of the book.. the sentimental sub-text of the review is exactly the same as the article above http://www.voxmentis.com/2011/08/white-tiger-by-aravind-adiga-winner-of....

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Ranjit Goswami
Kolkata, India
October 22nd, 2011
4:40 am
I understand and respect the views of the author here.

However, I have strong objections to 'they’re all liars'. Or with the overall sense the article has against the human dignity of the poor people (hygiene standards of poor maid).

Early in my academic life, I learnt how not to make categorical statements. The author has kept no escape route. There are ample stories in Indian or global media on how a poor taxi driver returns thousands of dollars/assets. I myself have a driver who is very ethical in his standards. I am not sure that facing same need of money as he does, I would have been able to maintain same ethical standards.

One must have a human understanding of the unethical practices of the needy.

I am even little surprised that NYT publishing standards didn't find anything objectionable to 'they’re all liars' comment in above blog.

There are times, when, even I thought of leaving India. However, it was never for the dishonesty of the poor or needy. It is an irony and against developed-nations spirit of exploitation of cheap-labor that rich/middle-class in India enjoy a lifestyle of maid, personal drivers here due to cheap labor. My thinking of leaving India, at times, originates from the overall lack of ethics in the upper 10% of Indian society.

In one way, I get a feeling that this article supports the moral deficit of those 10%, without basic empathy for the needy and the poor.

Sorry if my interpretation of article is all wrong.

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Delhi
October 22nd, 2011
4:40 am
Sumedh: You will soon find your re-arrival as much an enigma as a take-away that is not a pizza..
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AK
India
October 22nd, 2011
4:40 am
In a way, the author is right. Living in India is a hard test for any person that believes in humanism. Because India will take you by the scruff of your collar, shake the very foundations of your belief system and she will ask some very tough questions.

For those whose humanistic beliefs are superficial or perhaps badly reasoned and tacked on only by circumstance -- not through conviction, it can be a very traumatic experience indeed, as this article perhaps demonstrates.

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up
ma
October 22nd, 2011
4:40 am
Thanks for the article. I wonder though, what did this sentence mean: "a position she lost only because of a few uncivilized humans (at least give us back our Koh-i-noor!)". Could someone explain?
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Mitra
Chicago
October 22nd, 2011
4:41 am
I see the point- living in a poor country with a lot of suffering almost requires you to be a little insensitive, boorish and cruel - otherwise you are afraid you and your children are going to fall back in the struggle for survival. (so few people in India have what we would consider an adequate standard of living that they are perpetually struggling to maintain their position in an ocean of low income/poverty). And the old hierarchies related to caste (or now class) and gender have hardly dissappeared. India being one of the world's most heterogenous societies, the bigotry and stereotypes (while annoying) should not have been a complete surprise.

I still fail to understand the author though! What prevented him from volunteering for the many NGO's in Bangalore that are working for the poor and the underprileged in the weekend? What prevented him from joining Indian liberals in a fight for making India a more equal society? (and there are millions of them, even if they are a small fraction of the population). Who told him that the only way to live is to work at a job 12 hrs a day and try to maximize your bank balance?

Surely, the disparity in India is only as great as that in many other modernizing/industrializing developing nations like China? ( or only slightly more). Why didn't he try to do his bit to reduce the disparity (that responsibility is not just for governments), if he was so concerned about it?

I am afraid the answer to these questions would have to be found in Mr Mungee's personal life and not in India - and therefore the answers need not concern us.

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AUS-CJB
Coimbatore, India
October 22nd, 2011
4:41 am
In 2012 I will move back to the States after seven years in India. My experiences are similar to Sumedh's and I'll be leaving for similar reasons. Last year my wife and son witnessed my screaming at some begging children who were touching me as I sat in a Bangalore autorickshaw (not one of my better moments). On Friday I spent most of the day in bed with some of nasty stomach bug and still managed to negotiate with the maid about her annual Diwali bonus (we settled on sweets, saris, and one month's salary - a total of $40).

We ex-pats make India a better place by living here and bringing jobs, but I am not sure India is returning the favor. We eat food at restaurants where we are served by children; we tolerate (perpetuate?) a permanent underclass that lives in conditions we wouldn't wish on our pets; and for every step in a "positive" direction (pepperoni pizza! English-langauge movies! real hamburger! organic lettuce! the new shopping mall!) we are met with government actions like Bangalore's ban on Western dancing that show how much power religious fanatics hell-bent on preserving the ancient status quo (or fomenting the next religiously inspired round of violence) still have here.

I can't say more than Sumedh did about the issue of caste. Suffice it to say that the sons and daughters of ex-pats would never be welcome members of Hindu families unless they are Non-Resident Indians from the right caste, skin hue, and home town and they have a flush bank account.

This place has come a remarkable distance, but it has a long way to go.

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L.A.
October 22nd, 2011
5:00 am
I left Thailand after three and a half years for very similar reasons. Good honest piece. It ain't for everyone. That is for sure.
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SS
India
October 22nd, 2011
5:00 am
Self-indulgent hogwash.
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Chennai, at the moment
October 22nd, 2011
5:01 am
"They are all liars." Huh. Huh. I cannot get past what you mean. Is your employment of a chauffeur so large, that statistically you can claim that each and everyone of them was out to get money out of you? Do you mean to say that, not one driver in the city of Banaglore was honest?

I am far too angry with NYT, for publishing this opinion column, than to comment intelligently about the maid-health-hygiene episode. Just curious, back in Bay area, do you have a maid and a chauffeur?

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apoorvmat
Amsterdan
October 22nd, 2011
5:21 am
I thank you for articulating the way I feel, and admire you for your courage in doing so.
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Raigarh, CS
October 22nd, 2011
5:22 am
The Indians who have chosen (though they also had an option to escape like the author) to stay back have worked hard and made their contribution to bring about small changes (for better) in the Indian society and economy. Their collective efforts have made a big change and brought India to a respectable position in the world.
It seems that the author looks down upon, Indians who have stayed back and India as a nation, disdainfully as he has managed to return back to his comfort zone.
In my opinion such persons should refrain from commenting on India and Indians in the mass media.
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Paris
October 22nd, 2011
5:22 am
This is stating the obvious, but obviously it needs to be said: Readers #5 and #13 have completely misunderstood the point the author was making. The "liars" comment was a report of attitudes he heard all around him and was afraid he was coming to share. It was by no means an endorsement of such an attituded.
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Mahesh
Bangalore
October 22nd, 2011
5:23 am
I lived in the US for 5 year, back in India for the last 1 year. Don't feel any difference in the mind or in conveniences. Lets talk about your preferences and not talk about humanism etc in India; after living in the US we all know how far Indians run away from the black communities there, and how various communities live in their own segregated ghettos in several cities, a situation partially caused by economics and crime. Don't get me wrong we loved the lifestyle, travel and conveniences in the US. People are lot nicer to each other in most places.

India is far more real than the artificial smile and hello we tell each other in the US; every body gets a chance if they are ready to move out their hole.

You want and missed the american lifestyle, plain and simple, maybe there is pressure from the wife to live in the US. Why make India responsible for your guilt?.

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Macdin
Mi
October 22nd, 2011
7:13 am
Wonderful piece. However, I was not sure what "Hindu rate of growth" in the following sentence means. May be the author or one of the readers can elaborate: My wife and I are software professionals, and our careers flourished at an Indian rate of growth (R.I.P., “Hindu rate of growth”).
By the way, I do not believe that the author was calling all Indians liars. As I read it, he was referring to how well-to-do Indians often think of those who are poor.
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Nagendra
Bengaluru, India
October 22nd, 2011
7:14 am
Don't know what this guy is talking about! I returned to Bengaluru after 10 years in the US and am loving it. My wife and I enjoyed our stay in the US and are now enjoying life back home as well. On a more serious note - granted, not everyone has to feel the same - different strokes for different folks right? Absolutely!
But some of his comments seem to indicate he had made up his mind to dislike his former home even before landing. Once, when buying ice cream in the US, a bunch of rowdy rednecks in a pick-up yelled "Go back to Iraq" at me - doesn't mean I paint all pick-up truck drivers as racist! I have known some really nice people who drive pick-ups. I pitied the ignorance of the imbeciles on that day and moved on.
I agree with some of the other comments here - try to make a difference in India by being part of a cause you are passionate about. Just letting the problems get to you won't help anyone. I know I am getting a lot of satisfaction out of that.
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Venkat
Florida
October 22nd, 2011
7:14 am
In Hinduism, the swan is an important symbol. For, the swan swims in dirty water, yet does not get muddied and remains pristine white. Furthermore, the swan does not shirk from the dirty water either, for fear of muddying itself.

This symbolism somehow seems apt, in the context of the present article.

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rvnagesh
michiga
October 22nd, 2011
7:14 am
One is also missing the Health care.Unless you know the RIGHT DOCTOR and have the money you will end up getting fleeced AND worse unnecessary procedures as there is no PEER review in the Corporate hospitals whoose aim is to maximise profit.Just wait till you fall serously ill and you will find out.
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Chennai, at the moment
October 22nd, 2011
7:15 am
@ #16 - Alan.

Hi,
I perfectly understood what the author meant. I did not read a denial that the author did not share similar feelings.

I have lived in the Bay area. I know how it is. I furthermore have relatives who are now citizens of USA. In my family I am one of the few who has chosen to stay back. Those who migrated have made it abundantly clear. The lifestyle offered in USA synced very much to what they want in their lives. It was need based. After all it is their choice to make and they are at full liberty to do whatever they want.

However, it is entirely different when you blog saying that your personal preferences did not match up with the growth that is happening in India. The only summation I can assume from the author's post is thus: "I came to India but she drove me away." This post should be titled "my litany of grievances with the changing India and why I quit".

For the record, I do not judge the author for making the choices he had to do. Or even the reasoning behind it. Articulating that in a blog post with tremendous international reach, the tone could definitely have been better.

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gn
uk
October 22nd, 2011
7:19 am
the key difference between India and places like US is that India is more real and therefore the hypocrisy of life is plain for an outsider to see, but in US you can go on living your lifestyle without even noticing the hypocrisy of life only some events like Katrina make it real. In the western world, you never see the workers in chinese factory who make the nice nike shoes that you will so gladly buy, but you are quick to blame the chinese society on how they exploit the poor workers.

Unfortunately, in India you see the people you exploit (in a way) everyday whether it is the poor sweeper on the street or the maid that does the dishes, in US everyone calls it capitalism and everyone is given a shiny dress to wear...slowly but surely India is going the american way.
the problem in my opinion with people like the above blogger and Aravind Adiga - (the white tiger), is that they take the worst of society and paint the whole society with that broad brush, just because for some reason every story that harps on the negative aspect of the society sells.

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Ptr
Budapest
October 22nd, 2011
7:19 am
The post is thought-provoking, there are a few doubtful passages though...

I totally agree with #8 : could you specify how you mean "a position she lost only because of a few uncivilized humans (at least give US back our Koh-i-noor!)" ?

I think you in America are enjoying the benefits of a society built by these 'uncivilized humans,' who you actually say to be the very civilized ones. This is what your writing, at least, is pointing at.

Western and Indian societies have both changed considerably during the last two centuries, both for the better and in certain ways for the worse. But they are still very different, having their pros and cons. I am sorry to say but if you associate youself with the Western style of living, you don't have the right anymore to make such statements as the one I've cited. In Rome, do as the Romans do, so in America, you must at least try to give up you Indian identity (and marry your daugther to an American boy)

Civilizations are not formed by ex-pat opportunists (even opportunists with excusable motivations). They may carry new thoughts, but it is the masses who may internalize them. It's not our part to make judgements with immense generalizations on those masses.

I have lived in India, and, personally, there is a lot I would appreciate to experience in Europe too, but I cannot condemn my countrymen just because they think different about certain practices, e.g. relationships, etc. Here I'm tring to enjoy benefits I can have in place, and I have the option for a change without letting myself falling into such confusions, Mr Koh-i-Noor...

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Potomac, MD
October 22nd, 2011
7:19 am
This is a very courageous and thought provoking piece. The enormous economic and social inequalities in India and the dehumanization of large swathes of society are indeed troubling. The author seems to have been very conscious of that and chose to fight that by leaving. Wouldn't that same consciousness allowed him to stay and prevent those attitudes overcoming him? None of us are perfect after all and did a few instances when his behavior did not live up to his own standards indicate he would be overtaken by conventional social attitudes?
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My dear Sumedh,

Hello. I am not only an American with Indian birth, just like you and your wife (I hope) but I spent good four years seeking that patriotic fever you felt when you decided to return to India, for good.

My personal and family experiences are horrible, to say the least. I shall not go into them as this is your day in the sun.

By the way, from your surname, Mungee, (Moongi) I believe, you are from Maharashtra, (Deshastha Yajurvedi, Brahmin, Kanva (Pratham) Shakha, from Nashik, my hometown, a true Kannav). I have many relatives by that surname. So am I.

...and I am Sid Harth@arabuhuru.com

 
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New York Times

Mercoledì 26 ottobre 2011

Edizione globaleL'India

22 ottobre 2011, 2:58

Perché ho lasciato l'India (ancora)

Da SUMEDH MUNGEE
Un'automobile e due carrelli di manzo fanno il loro senso con traffico in Mumbai.L'automobile di Arko Datta/ReutersA e due carrelli di manzo fanno il loro senso con traffico in Mumbai.

il film di Hindi del ¶The sul mio “ritorno volo in India„ il 13 dicembre 2006 era “Swades„ (letteralmente: “Il mio paese,„ una storia circa un assistente tecnico patriottico della NASA che rinvia in India per contribuire a migliorare la sua patria).

l'idea del ¶The che potete riparare i problemi dell'India aggiungendo più gente ad esso - persino gente astuta - è altamente sospetta. No, non stavo andando indietro riparare le cose; Stavo lasciando gli Stati Uniti per andare indietro in India di Shri Thomas Friedman: l'India che ha offerto le aziende globali, l'alimento continentale, le scuole internazionali e l'aiuto domestico; l'India che ha offerto la libertà dalla delocalizzazione e da George W. Bush.

il ¶I è stato eccitato circa muoversi in India ed ho pensato che avessi la destra aspettativa-dopo essere assente per undici anni (mi sono sviluppato in su in Mumbai), io sono stato preparato affinchè l'India ritenessi di meno come la casa e più come il pasto “vegetariano„ indiano del volo: visivamente familiare ma viscerale straniero.

il movimento del ¶Our era un successo da affatto metrico. La miei moglie ed io sono professionisti del software e le nostre carriere sono fiorito ad un tasso di crescita indiano (R.I.P., “tasso di crescita indù "). La nostra figlia ha assistito ad un addestramento preliminare a Bangalore di cui la qualità ha abbinato c'è ne nella zona della baia. Il nostro piano a tre camere nella colonia della difesa, Indiranagar, era così comodo e così Americano-amichevole che i miei amici lo hanno denominato la zona verde.

Il ¶ ma, due anni e nove mesi dopo il nostro movimento in India, su uno dei nostri trotti normali di sera lungo la nostra via impossibile frondosa, la miei moglie ed io si sono scoperti che discutiamo non se dovremmo rinviare negli Stati Uniti, ma quando.

mese del ¶A più successivamente, eravamo indietro nella California.
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il ¶Anyone che ha scritto circa l'India ha ad un certo punto ha sostenuto che ci sono due o al massimo tre Indias, se “aeroplano India„ o “motorino India„ o “carrello di manzo India.„ Forse si arrestano a tre perché è difficile affinchè il lettore immagini più.

Il ¶ nella fase iniziale, tutte le metafore ha squillato allineare. Vederei il manzo-carrello India elemosinare dal motorino India mentre il motorino India stava ottenendo honked in all'aeroplano India.

¶But d'altra parte che le metafore si sono avvi sbiadirsi e la frantumazione quotidiana fissata dentro. Ho smesso di notare la novità, la vecchiaia ed il juxtapositioned-ness dell'India. Nelle settimane, avevo fatto parte dello sciame honking che guida a Bangalore. Ho conosciuto un tipo che potrebbe riparare qualche cosa dalle baruffe di conversazione della mia figlia alla nostra radio dell'onda di Bose. Potrei sweet-talk un driver del auto-risciò nella tosatura me (anche se Kannada-sono stato sfidato). Tutto ha ritenuto esperto, normale, irrilevante, come dovrebbe essere; Ero in India.

il ¶That è quando ha cominciato andare male.

mesi di ¶Three dopo che il nostro ritorno, dopo un amico detto me che i suoi due bambini erano ammalati con l'amebiasi - lui ha pensato che la ottengano dalla loro domestica - la mia moglie ed ho indicato un insieme separato di padellame per le nostre domestiche. È più igienico.

¶Within sei mesi, brusquely ho rifiutato il mio driver un prestito di emergenza di 500 rupie ($10) assistere al funerale della sua nonna. ho imparato la mia lezione dopo che il nostro driver precedente scammed me nel pagamento il piedino rotto del suo figlio (mentre è risultato, non ha avuto figlio). Li incoraggia soltanto a chiedere più; inoltre, sono tutti i bugiardi.

¶Near il primo anniversario del nostro ritorno, ho avuto mio primo avvenimento di strada-collera: Ho abusato verbalmente un venditore ambulante che stava ostruendo la strada. Non sto andando lasciare il manzo-carrello India rendere la mia figlia ritardata per la sua prova di ammissione della scuola.

il venditore ambulante del ¶The ha brillato ma scampered via, la strada rimossa e, poichè ho camminato di nuovo alla mia automobile, ho veduto qualche cosa di nuovo e che disturba negli occhi del mio driver: rispetto. Non so la mia figlia ha ritenuto perché non potrei osservarlo nell'occhio.

¶Was questo persino un problema reale? Faccia la vostra pace; è come è. Alla conclusione di una chiamata di telefono lunga alla mia madre in Pune, ha detto, “non pensi così tanto. Funzioni appena duro e potete ottenere qualunque volete.„

¶But I non contestato mai che cosa potrei ottenere; Odiavo che cosa stavo trasformando in.

il ¶I ha lottato, io è regredetto, io è migliorato, io ha provato ad imparare da altri - tranne tanti è sembrato (a me, non a loro) più difettoso fuori: uno scherzo offensivo di Sardar qui (persino i capretti risi), un'inchiesta non-così-sottile circa la mia casta (sono ancora furioso con me per rispondere), punte su come mantenere la nostra domestica “nel suo posto„ - non si è arrestato appena. Et il tu, aeroplano India?

il ¶And in modo da esso va.

il ¶In tutto il disfacimento, là è questo momento in cui una persona che era una parte di voi appena un istante fa diventa uno sconosciuto surrealista esperto. Dopo quei momento, inerzia e smentita possono fare ritardare soltanto l'inevitabile.

¶On la mia notte scorsa a Bangalore ho bevuto una quantità enorme di mia minestra di verdura caldo-e-acida cinese da portar via favorita ed ho gridato; Ho saputo che questo secondo arrivederci era finale. Quando la I prima ha lasciato l'India in 1996, ho andato per gli Stati Uniti. Quando ho lasciato l'India in 2009, ho lasciato l'India.
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¶Why faccio ritengo migliore negli Stati Uniti? Forse non sono perché sono nel paese qui, ma perché sono uno straniero. Forse tre mila anni di storia ci hanno reso gli indiani poco troppo un esperto tra loro per il nostro proprio buon. Abbiamo perfezionato “il lampeggio„ di Malcolm Gladwell - la disposizione riflessiva, inducente al vizio e tragicamente esatta di altri indiani nei carrelli di manzo, motorini, aeroplani e chi conosce che altro. Queste edizioni esistono in tutti i paesi, ma in India, potrei vedere il bigottismo nell'alta fedeltà e sentire gli stereotipi nel surround-sound - parzialmente perché è più difettoso in India, principalmente perché sono indiano.

la ricchezza dei ¶India e la disparità di stile di vita è ancora impossibile grandi; Probabilmente ho speso più su pizza che sulla mia domestica. Ha conosciuto questa anche, perché era spesso la persona che ha passato al tipo di consegna della pizza i suoi soldi. Tutto in India deve occuparsi di questa, ma ho fatto fronte nel senso possibile più difettoso: disumanizzando lei e l'altra gente gradicala mai così un po', mai così sottile - l'amebiasi cronica dell'anima.

il ¶Though che il mio ritorno in India è venuto a mancare, io ha ritornato ritenendo più ottimista che mai circa successo a lungo termine dell'India. L'India sta riguadagnando la sua posizione di leadership - la posizione che ha tenuto da quando gli esseri umani sono stati civilizzati, una posizione ha perso soltanto a causa di alcuni esseri umani incivili (almeno diaci indietro il nostro KOH-io-noor!). So che l'India regolerà il futuro. È appena che ho realizzato - mi sono rassegnato al fatto - che non sarò una parte di quel futuro.

¶I felice sono andato indietro in India e sono felice di essere indietro nella vita degli Stati Uniti ho cerchio completo prossimo ma il centro si è spostato. Non sono andato in India trovare a casa, ma la ho trovata; Ora so dove appartengo. Poichè Laozi potrebbe dire, a volte il viaggio di singolo punto comincia con mille miglia nel senso opposto.

(non ci era film di Hindi sul volo di nuovo agli Stati Uniti. O forse non ho controllato.)

Vite di Sumedh Mungee negli Stati Uniti.

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Doubai
22 ottobre 2011
4:39
Ora per una simile storia dalla prospettiva cinese. Seriamente NYT. Gli indiani mangiano l'alimento cinese perché (e tibetano) gente cinese sono venuto in India come rifugiati in inizi ventesimo di saloni e dei ristoranti di capelli di messa a punto e di secolo che serviscono le tagliatelle piccanti in ogni piccola città su e giù il paese ed eravamo abbastanza avventurosi provare il loro alimento. Notevolmente ammiriamo il successo del nostro vicino ma inoltre vogliamo una prospettiva sociale e culturale su che cosa questo cambiamento significa per i poveri e la classe media cinesi.
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Suneeta
Jaipur
22 ottobre 2011
4:39
Ringraziamenti per andare! La vostra presenza in India era di un ospite INDESIDERABILE.
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bayareadesi
San Francisco, CA
22 ottobre 2011
4:39
Mi domando quant0 i lettori otterranno che cosa Sumedh sta provando a dire ma lo ottengo. Ci sono molti parole e sentimenti o farneticamenti non scritti in questo blog ma il produttore è un quitter, lui non ha avuto il coraggio affrontarlo. Ritengo che il peccato per voi poichè sono sicuro voi non sia più più felice qui come eravate in India.
Sì il relativo più facile affinchè me commenti ma quando vado indietro sarà per sempre.
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Siddharth Kaushal
Delhi, India
22 ottobre 2011
4:40
“So che l'India regolerà il futuro. È appena che ho realizzato-Io mi sono rassegnato al fatto-che non sarò una parte di quel futuro.„ Ciò potente sta muovendosi!!! Completamente capisco che cosa l'autore significa!!

Ciò è una riflessione molto molto onesta di un indiano coscienzioso. Ho sperimentato lo stessi molto rigido sul mio ritorno da un viaggio di 6 mesi ad Europa.

La cosa triste è… la coscienza culturale dell'India ha interiorizzato questi secondario-humanizatoin, de-humanisation e categorizzazione sociale sottomettente. non ci è quasi senso non doloroso intorno esso. soltanto, all'occorrenza, migliora incrementalmente come conseguenza della diffusione dei valori egalitari.

Penso che internazionalizzando il discorso circa il depravity e lo sfruttamento “del carrello di manzo„ India potrebbe contribuire ad innescare un inizio del cambiamento. Non non invitare un movimento interno a riuscire.

questo articolo ricorda ad uno del romanzo di conquista premiato del booker da Aravind Adiga - la tigre bianca - che inoltre dettaglia le umiliazioni quotidiane che i underclasses indiani innumerevoli sono inflitti con, come aspetto dell'abitudine culturalmente sanzionata. Siete benvenuto verificare una revisione del libro. il secondario-testo sentimentale della revisione è esattamente lo stesso dell'articolo sopra http://www.voxmentis.com/2011/08/white-tiger-by-aravind-adiga-winner-of….

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Ranjit Goswami
Kolkata, India
22 ottobre 2011
4:40
Capisco e rispetto i punti di vista dell'autore qui.

Tuttavia, ho forti obiezioni a `che sono tutti i bugiardi. O con il senso generale l'articolo ha contro la dignità umana della gente povera (campioni dell'igiene della domestica povera).

Presto nella mia vita accademica, ho imparato quanto non rilasciare le dichiarazioni categorici. L'autore non ha mantenuto uscita d'emergenza. Ci sono ampie storie nei mezzi indiani o globali su come un tassista povero restituisce migliaia di dollari/beni. Io stesso ho un driver che è molto etico nei suoi campioni. Non sono sicuro che affrontando lo stesso bisogno di soldi come fa, avrei potuto effettuare gli stessi campioni etici.

Uno deve avere una comprensione umana delle pratiche immorali del bisognoso.

Sono persino poco sorpreso che i campioni di pubblicazione di NYT non hanno trovato nulla discutibile a `che sono commento di tutti i bugiardi dentro sopra il blog.

Ci sono periodi, quando, persino ho pensato a lasciare l'India. Tuttavia, non era mai per la disonestà dei poveri o bisognoso. È un'ironia e contro lo spirito di sviluppare-nazioni di sfruttamento di poco costoso-lavori che i ricchi/classe media in India godono di uno stile di vita della domestica, driver personali qui dovuto manodopera a buon mercato. Il mio pensiero a lasciare l'India, proviene occasionalmente dalla mancanza generale di etica nel 10% superiore della società indiana.

Nel one-way, ottengo una sensibilità che questo articolo sostiene il deficit morale di quei 10%, senza empatia di base per il bisognoso ed i poveri.

Spiacente se la mia interpretazione dell'articolo è tutto l'errata.

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Delhi
22 ottobre 2011
4:40
Sumedh: Presto troverete il vostro re-arrivo tanto un enigma quanto asportabile che non è una pizza.
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AK
L'India
22 ottobre 2011
4:40
In un senso, l'autore è di destra. Vivendo in India è una prova dura per chiunque che crede nell'umanesimo. Poiché l'India lo prenderà dallo stropiccio del vostro collare, agiti i fondamenti stessi del vostro sistema di credenza e chiederà alcune domande difficili stesse.

Per quelli di cui la credenza umanistica è superficiale o ragionata forse male ed aderita sopra soltanto dalla circostanza - non con la convinzione, può essere un'esperienza molto traumatica effettivamente, poichè questo articolo forse dimostra.

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mA
22 ottobre 2011
4:40
Ringraziamenti per l'articolo. Mi domando comunque, che cosa ha fatto questa media di frase: “una posizione che ha perso soltanto a causa di alcuni esseri umani incivili (almeno diaci indietro il nostro KOH-io-noor!)„. Potrebbe qualcuno spiegare?
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Mitra
Chicago
22 ottobre 2011
4:41
Vedo il punto che vive in un pæse povero con molta sofferenza quasi gli richiede di essere un piccolo insensibile, boorish e crudele - altrimenti siete impaurito che voi ed i vostri bambini stanno andando regredire nella lotta per la sopravvivenza. (così poca gente in India ha che cosa considereremmo un tenore di vita sufficiente che stiano lottando perpetuo per effettuare la loro posizione in un oceano di reddito basso/di povertà). E le vecchie gerarchie relative a casta (o ora a codice categoria) ed al genere appena dissappeared. L'India che è uno delle società più eterogenee, del bigottismo e degli stereotipi del mondo (mentre infastidicendosi) non dovrebbe essere una sorpresa completa.

Ancora non riesco a capire l'autore comunque! Che cosa gli ha impedito di offrirsi volontariamente per i molti NGO a Bangalore che stanno funzionando per i poveri e underprileged in fine settimana? Che cosa gli ha impedito di unire i liberali indiani in una lotta per rendere all'India una società più uguale? (e ci sono milioni di loro, anche se sono una piccola frazione della popolazione). Chi gli ha detto che l'unico senso vivere è di funzionare ad un lavoro 12 ore un il giorno e di provare ad elevare il vostro bilancio bancario?

Certamente, la disparità in India è soltanto grande quanto quella in molto altra modernizzare/che industrializza i pæsi in via di sviluppo come la Cina? (o soltanto un po'più). Perché non ha provato a fare la sua punta per ridurre la disparità (quella responsabilità non è appena per i governi), se fosse in modo da responsabile a questo proposito?

Sono impaurito che la risposta a queste domande dovrebbe essere trovata nella vita personale del sig. Mungee e non in India - e quindi le risposte non devono interessarle.

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AUS-CJB
Coimbatore, India
22 ottobre 2011
4:41
In 2012 mi muoverò di nuovo alle condizioni dopo sette anni in India. Le mie esperienze sono simili a Sumedh ed andrò per i simili motivi. L'anno scorso la miei moglie e figlio hanno testimoniato i miei grida ad alcuni bambini di supplica che stavano toccandolo mentre mi sono seduto in un autorickshaw di Bangalore (non uno dei miei migliori momenti). Il venerdì I ha speso la maggior parte del giorno in base con alcuno di cattivo insetto dello stomaco ed ancora è riuscito a negoziare con la domestica circa la sua indennità annuale di Diwali (ci siamo depositati sui dolci, sui sari e su uno stipendio del mese - complessivamente $40).

Ex-picchietti rendiamo all'India un migliore posto vivendo qui e portando i lavori, ma non sono l'India sicura sto restituendo il favore. Mangiamo l'alimento ai ristoranti in cui siamo serviti dai bambini; tolleriamo (perpetui?) un sottoproletariato permanente che vive nelle circostanze noi non desidererebbe sui nostri animali domestici; e per ogni punto in un senso “positivo„ (pizza di merguez! Film Inglesi-langauge! hamburger reale! lattuga organica! il nuovo centro commerciale!) siamo incontrati le azioni governative come il divieto di Bangalore di dancing occidentale che mostrano quanto potere i fanatici religiosi hell-bent sulla conservazione dello status quo antico (o sul fomentare il seguente ispirato religioso in tondo della violenza) ancora hanno qui.

Non posso dire che più di Sumedh ha fatto circa l'emissione di casta. Bastila per dire che i figli e le figlie dei ex-picchietti non sarebbero mai membri benvenuti delle famiglie indù a meno che siano indiani non residenti dalla giusta casta, tonalità della pelle e la città natale e hanno un conto bancario a livello.

Questo posto è venuto una distanza notevole, ma ha parecchio da fare.

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L.A.
22 ottobre 2011
5:00
Ho lasciato la Tailandia dopo tre e una metà di anni per i motivi molto simili. Buona parte onesta. Non è per tutto. Quello è di sicuro.
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Ss
L'India
22 ottobre 2011
5:00
Hogwash autoindulgente.
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Chennai, al momento
22 ottobre 2011
5:01
“Sono tutti i bugiardi.„ Huh. Huh. Non posso ottenere oltre che cosa significate. È la vostra occupazione di un chauffeur così grande, quello potete sostenere statisticamente che ciascuno e tutto di loro erano fuori ottenere i soldi da voi? Significate dire quello, non un driver nella città di Banaglore eravate onesto?

Sono troppo arrabbiato lontano con NYT, per la pubblicazione della questa colonna di opinione, che commentare intelligentemente circa l'episodio dell'domestica-salute-igiene. Appena curioso, posteriore nella zona della baia, avete una domestica e un chauffeur?

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apoorvmat
Amsterdan
22 ottobre 2011
5:21
Lo ringrazio per l'articolazione del senso che ritengo e lo ammiro per il vostro coraggio in tal modo.
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Raigarh, CS
22 ottobre 2011
5:22
Gli indiani che hanno scelto (comunque anche hanno avuti un'opzione da fuoriuscire come l'autore) di rimanere indietro hanno lavorato duro ed hanno dato il loro contributo per determinare i piccoli cambi (per migliori) nella società e nell'economia indiane. I loro sforzi collettivi hanno fatto un grande cambiamento e portato l'India ad una posizione rispettabile nel mondo.
Sembra sdegnoso che l'autore osservi giù su, indiani che hanno rimanere indietro e l'India come nazione, poichè è riuscito a rinviare di nuovo alla sua zona di comodità.
Nel mio parere tali persone dovrebbero astenersi da dal commento l'India e gli indiani nel mass media.
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Parigi
22 ottobre 2011
5:22
Ciò sta dichiarando il evidente, ma deve ovviamente essere detta: I lettori #5 e #13 completamente hanno compreso male il punto che l'autore stava facendo. Il commento “dei bugiardi„ era un rapporto degli atteggiamenti ha sentito tutti intorno lui e che era impaurito che stava venendo a ripartirsi. Era affatto che un'approvazione di tale attituded. che
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Mahesh
Bangalore
22 ottobre 2011
5:23
Ho vissuto negli Stati Uniti per 5 anni, posteriori in India per lo scorso 1 anno. Non ritenga alcuna differenza nella mente o nelle convenienze. Lascia per parlare delle vostre preferenze e per non parlare dell'umanesimo ecc in India; dopo avere vissuto negli Stati Uniti tutti conosciamo fin dove indiani fatti funzionare a partire dalle comunità nere là e come le varie comunità vivono nei loro propri ghetti segregati in parecchie città, in una situazione parzialmente causata dall'economia e nel crimine. Nonli ottenga me errati amava lo stile di vita, la corsa e le convenienze negli Stati Uniti. La gente è l'un l'altro lotto più piacevole nella maggior parte dei posti.

L'India è molto più reale di il sorriso artificiale e ciao noi si dice negli Stati Uniti; ogni corpo ha una probabilità se sono pronti a spostare fuori il loro foro.

Volete e mancato lo stile di vita americano, pianura e semplice, forse ci è pressione dalla moglie vivere negli Stati Uniti. Perché renda l'India responsabile della vostra colpevolezza?.

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Macdin
MI
22 ottobre 2011
7:13
Parte meravigliosa. Tuttavia, non ero sicuro che cosa “il tasso di crescita indù„ nella seguente frase significa. Può essere l'autore o uno dei lettori può elaborare: La miei moglie ed io sono professionisti del software e le nostre carriere sono fiorito ad un tasso di crescita indiano (R.I.P., “tasso di crescita indù ").
A proposito, non credo che l'autore stesse denominando tutti gli indiani bugiardi. Come lo ho letto, stava riferendo a come--indiani spesso pensa a coloro che è povero.
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Nagendra
Bengaluru, India
22 ottobre 2011
7:14
Non conosca di che cosa questo tipo sta parlando! Ho rinviato a Bengaluru dopo 10 anni negli Stati Uniti e l'che lo amo. La miei moglie ed io hanno goduto del nostro soggiorno negli Stati Uniti ed ora stanno godendo della casa posteriore di vita pure. Su una nota più seria - assegnata, non tutta deve ritenere lo stessi - colpi differenti per le gente differenti a destra? Assolutamente!
Ma alcune delle sue osservazioni sembrano indicare che abbia composto la sua mente per sgradire il suo precedente domestico anche prima dell'atterraggio. Una volta che quando compra il gelato negli Stati Uniti, un mazzo di agricoltori del Sud turbolenti in una raccolta urlati “va indietro nell'Irak„ me - non significa la vernice di I tutti gli autisti di camion della raccolta come razzista! Ho conosciuto qualche gente realmente piacevole che guida le raccolte. Pitied l'ignoranza dei imbeciles quel giorno ed ho passato.
Sono d'accordo con alcune delle altre osservazioni qui - provi a fare una differenza in India fa parte di una causa che siete appassionato circa. Appena lasciare i problemi ottenere voi non aiuterà chiunque. So che sto ottenendo molta soddisfazione da quella.
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Venkat
Florida
22 ottobre 2011
7:14
Nel Hinduism, il cigno è un simbolo importante. Per, le nuotate del cigno in acqua sporca, tuttavia non ottiene muddied e non rimane bianco incontaminato. Ancora, il cigno non shirk dall'acqua sporca l'uno o l'altro, per timore di muddying.

Questo simbolismo sembra in qualche modo adatto, nel contesto dell'articolo attuale.

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rvnagesh
michiga
22 ottobre 2011
7:14
Uno inoltre sta mancando il Healthcare.Unless che conoscete il MEDICO DI DESTRA e che avete i soldi concluderete in su ottenere tosato E le procedure inutili più difettose poichè non ci è esame nello scopo corporativo del whoose degli ospedali è di elevare il profitto. Appena l'attesa finchè cadete serously ill e voi scopriranno.
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Chennai, al momento
22 ottobre 2011
7:15
@ #16 - Alan.

Ciao,
Ho capito perfettamente che cosa l'autore ha significato. Non ho letto una smentita che l'autore non ha ripartito le simili sensibilità.

Ho vissuto nella zona della baia. So è. Ancora ho parenti che ora sono cittadini degli S.U.A. Nella mia famiglia sono uno del poco che abbia scelto di rimanere indietro. Coloro che ha migrato la hanno dichiarata abbondantemente. Lo stile di vita ha offerto negli S.U.A. synced molto a che cosa vogliono nelle loro vite. Era bisogno basato. Dopo che tutta esso è la loro scelta da fare e sono alla libertà completa per fare qualunque vogliono.

Tuttavia, è interamente differente quando voi blog che dice che le vostre preferenze personali non hanno abbinato in su con lo sviluppo che sta accadendo in India. L'unica sommatoria. che posso presupporre dall'alberino dell'autore è così: “Sono venuto in India ma lo ha guidato via.„ Questo alberino dovrebbe essere intitolato “la mia litania delle rimostranze con l'India cambiante e perché rinuncio„.

Per memoria, non giudico l'autore per operare le scelte che ha dovuto fare. O persino il ragionamento dietro esso. Articolando quello in un alberino del blog con la portata internazionale tremenda, il tono potrebbe definitivamente essere migliore.

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la GN
il Regno Unito
22 ottobre 2011
7:19
la differenza chiave fra l'India ed i posti come gli Stati Uniti è che l'India è più reale e quindi l'ipocrisia di vita è normale affinchè uno straniero vedi, ma negli Stati Uniti potete continuare vivere il vostro stile di vita senza persino notare l'ipocrisia di vita soltanto alcuni eventi come Katrina la rende reale. Nel mondo occidentale, non vedete mai gli operai in fabbrica cinese che facciano i pattini piacevoli Nike che comprerete così felice, ma siete rapido incolpare della società cinese su come sfruttano gli operai poveri.

Purtroppo, in India vedete che la gente voi sfrutta (in un senso) giornaliere se è la povera spazzatrice sulla via o sulla domestica che fa i piatti, negli Stati Uniti tutto li denomina il capitalismo e tutto è dato un vestito lucido ad usura… Chi va piano, va sano e va lontano India sta andando il senso americano.
il problema nel mio parere con la gente gradice il blogger e il Aravind di cui sopra Adiga - (la tigre bianca), è che prendono il più difettoso della società e che verniciano l'intera società con che quella vasta spazzola, solo perché per qualche motivo ogni storia che le arpe sulla funzione negativa della società vende.

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Stampante
Budapest
22 ottobre 2011
7:19
L'alberino è interessante, là è alcuni passaggi dubbiosi comunque…

Completamente sono d'accordo con #8: potreste specificare come significate “una posizione che ha perso soltanto a causa di alcuni esseri umani incivili (almeno elasticità Stati Uniti indietro il nostro KOH-io-noor!)„?

Penso che in America stiate godendo dei benefici di una società sviluppata da questi esseri umani incivili del `, 'chi realmente dite di essere quei molto civilizzati. Ciò è a che cosa la vostra scrittura, almeno, sta indicando.

Le società occidentali ed indiane entrambe sono cambiato considerevolmente durante gli ultimi due secoli, sia per sensi migliori che in determinati per il più difettoso. Ma sono ancora molto differenti, avendo loro pro - e - contro. Sono spiacente di dire ma se associate il youself con lo stile occidentale di vivere, non avete la destra più rilasciare tali dichiarazioni come quella io ha citato. A Roma, faccia come i Romani fanno, in modo da in America, dovete provare almeno a dargli in su l'identità indiana (e sposare il vostro daugther ad un ragazzo americano)

Le civilizzazioni non sono costituite dagli opportunisti del ex-picchiettio (persino opportunisti con le motivazioni excusable). Possono trasportare i nuovi pensieri, ma è le masse che possono interiorizzarle. Non è la nostra parte per fare i giudizi con le generalizzazioni immense su quelle masse.

Ho vissuto in India e, personalmente, ci è mólto io apprezzerebbe per sperimentare in Europa anche, ma non posso condannare i miei connazionali solo perché che pensano differente a determinate pratiche, per esempio rapporti, ecc. Qui tring per godere dei benefici che posso avere sul posto ed ho l'opzione per un cambiamento senza lasciarmi che cado in tali confusioni, il sig. KOH-io-Noor…

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Potomac, MD
22 ottobre 2011
7:19
Ciò è una parte di provocazione molto coraggiosa e pensata. Le diseguaglianze economiche e sociali enormi in India ed il dehumanization di grandi falciate della società effettivamente stanno disturbando. L'autore sembra essere molto cosciente di quello ed ha scelto di combattere quello andando. Non che la stessa coscienza ha permesso che lui rimanesse ed impedicesse quegli atteggiamenti che lo sormontano? Nessun di noi sono perfetti dopo che tutti ed hanno fatto alcuni casi quando il suo comportamento non in tensione fino ai suoi propri livelli lo ha indicato sarebbe sorpassato dagli atteggiamenti sociali convenzionali?
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Il mio caro Sumedh,

Ciao. Sono non solo un americano con la nascita indiana, appena come voi e la vostra moglie (speranza di I) ma ho passare i buoni quattro anni che cerco che febbre che patriottica avete ritenuto quando avete deciso di rinviare in India, per sempre.

Le mie esperienze della famiglia e personali sono orribili, dire i minimo. Non entrerò in loro poichè questo è il vostro giorno al sole.

A proposito, dal vostro cognome, Mungee, (Moongi) credo, voi provengo dalla maharashtra, (Deshastha Yajurvedi, Brahmin, Kanva (Pratham) Shakha, da Nashik, mio luogo natio, un Kannav allineare). Ho molti parenti da quel cognome. Così I.

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Anna Hazare's movement has served its purpose: PM Manmohan Singh

PTI | Oct 20, 2011, 12.10AM IST
 
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PM Manmohan Singh on Wednesday said the government was working to put in place an effective Lokpal.

ON BOARD PM'S SPECIAL PLANE: Noting that Anna Hazare's movement has "served its purpose", Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Wednesday said the government was working to put in place an effective Lokpal which would be an assurance to people that corruption "cannot flourish as a way of life".

He said corruption was hurting development, governance besides the poor people and his government was committed to "clean up the system".

"Well, I would not like to use this opportunity to criticise any individual," he told journalists when asked whether Hazare had been "unfair" by continuously attacking him and his government.

"I think, Anna Hazareji's movement has served its purpose. We are all working to ensure that we have in place before long an effective Lokpal," Singh added while talking to accompanying journalists on his way back home from Pretoria where he attended the India-Brazil-south Africa (IBSA) Summit.

He said the government expected Parliament to vote for an effective Lokpal Bill "which will be an assurance to the people that corruption cannot flourish as a way of life."

Singh disagreed with a suggestion that corruption is an inevitable fallout of development as similar issues were finding resonance in public protests in other IBSA member countries -- Brazil and South Africa.

"I can't take that view of complacency. Corruption hurts development processes, corruption hurts the poor, corruption affects the quality of governance. Therefore, I can't say corruption is something which is inevitable in the society," he asserted.

PM denounces attack on Kejriwal

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh also denounced the physical attack on Team Anna member Arvind Kejriwal, saying there are civilised ways to express "anger and frustration" by anybody.

"There is no place for violence in our democracy. Therefore, any act of violence is to be condemned. On that point, I am absolutely clear that nothing is going to be gained by pursuit of violence, howsoever, angry one may feel," Singh told reporters.

He was replying to a question on the attack against Kejriwal in Lucknow on Tuesday.

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Readers' opinions (45)

Kishor (StL USA)
2 mins ago (01:51 AM)
Mr. PM, People will wait until winter session. Then you will see whole country on roads..... show the will for strong lokpal and take credit or Congress is in trouble.
karthik (Chennai)
2 mins ago (01:51 AM)
Many people in India criticize this Sardarji Manmhan Singh being spineless and submissive. I think his period was the best for India, Look at his achievements, which the elected leaders could not do .1). Abolition of License Raj 2). 100 Days rural Employment scheme 3). RTI 4). RTE 5). Indian industries in global operation Software companies, Tata, Automobile, Steel in UK. Mittal Steel in France, Vedanta minerals, in Australia, Airtel , Communications in South Africa…Finally the Lokpal. Let us cheer him instead of criticize him.,
Avaani (kasi)
2 mins ago (01:51 AM)
We should recognize the fact that India is lucky enough to be lead by educated people like MMS, which most of the other countries are just dreamed of. India should allow leaders like MMS to speak, and allow them to do their work. While it is easy to rally behind over reactive movements, these movements can be tweaked for means political benefits, leading to nothing. So my appeal to the educated class is that - at least you should apply your maturity and exposure world over and advise the ordinary class better. I don't care about congress as a party, but the country must be ruled by a stable government which is very important. MMS maynot have to do anything with Anna's LokPal or Jan LokPal or HariJan LokPal. He is talking about what is feasible from law making stand point & implementation stand point, which might need few changes to the Anna LokPal. One should understand that drafting a strong LokPal alone is the end of India's glory in the world.
ZillaNew (usa)
9 mins ago (01:44 AM)
Mr PM, ANNA's movement has just begun and it WILL BE SERVED when we GET JAN LOKPAL BILL Implemented. Till then there are millions and millions ANNAs all around world for it's PASSAGE SUCCESSFULLY. We are a ANNA TEAM OF MILLIONS in size.
gary (usa)
13 mins ago (01:40 AM)
how nice of pm to realise that corruption should go after 64 years of independence and a movement by people, what were you ignorant till now?
Nikita (Mumbai)
13 mins ago (01:40 AM)
How lucky to have MMS as the Prime Minister of india, indians are smarter to elect mms and not the the dumbo advani
vilas ravat (kollhapur) replies to Nikita
2 mins ago (01:51 AM)
great man, replace digvijay
jsingh142000 (Houston)
19 mins ago (01:34 AM)
Seems to be some reassurance for team Anna.....
usaravelli (gatthar lolli)
21 mins ago (01:32 AM)
It's not for the PM or the Presidents of either Congress party of BJP to decide when and whether the Anna movement served its purpose......they better stick to what they need to focus on, i.e. introduce and pass a strong lokpal bill......the people will decide on when the Anna movement may have served its purpose. The PM will do well to remember that neither Anna nor the people report to him through a formal chain of command, for him to pass down his decisions. It's the other way around.....the people will decide whether the PM and his cabinet is functioning properly or not.
Hari (bharat)
23 mins ago (01:30 AM)
Mr Prime minister, Thanks for recognizing that Anna's movement has served its purpose. Has Congress and your government served the purpose you are in government? Congress has ruled India the most since Independence......Our development and poverty metrics speaks a ton on your/congress performance. Buck up and serve our purpose for which you are in government.
Sumana Baruah (Jorhat) replies to Hari
16 mins ago (01:37 AM)
India is a superpower nation in the 6th spot.. It should be noticed..
vilas ravat (kollhapur) replies to Sumana Baruah
0 min ago (01:53 AM)
From where collected this data, come out from india then you will see difference between india and other nation
Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) replies to Sumana Baruah
8 mins ago (01:45 AM)
it could have easily been, and SHOULD have been no.2 where China currently is, despite them having started off with an economy about the same size or even a little smaller than ours about 30 - 35 years ago.
Really (Ind)
25 mins ago (01:28 AM)
Saving Grace !!! After all the bad Karma ( listed below... it is never ending)and suddenly trying to reconcile, will not work. We want accountability for all bad karma till date. All Corrupt governments state and central in power have to crumble. Corrupt politicians should go behind bars. Black money should go to treasury. Where is Yeddu's black money ? Why PC not being investigated ? Wiki leaks info still not released by Govt. There are no $$$ highlighted. List of bad karma: 1) Beating up Ramdev's team in middle of the night and blaming it on the police 2) Threatening Anna to face the same fate 3) Arresting him before his movement for J Lokpal 4) Saying parliament is supreme and are elected members; Who is Anna ? 5) Staying mum for 13 d when Anna was on hunger strike 6) Not focusing on eradicating corruption but focusing calling it a RSS/BJP movement 7) Trying to take credit by RG speech
Sam (Pune)
31 mins ago (01:22 AM)
We are giving far too much importance to individuals like kejriwala. He is baseless without any social ethics having political ambitions in a short spell. He is misleading the people with his hisar role and recent statements.
Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) replies to Sam
2 mins ago (01:51 AM)
when you can give far too much intelligence to people who loot, and far too much importance to people who use dynastic clout to try to become PM (raul gandi), it is wise to give greater, more and more, unflinching importance to people like kejriwal. have you seen his work? or do you know anything about his education and what he did as an activist after quitting IRS? it is easy to make statements against Anna and Kejriwal. How many drought-struck villages have you modernized and greened? How many people have you enlightened about the nature and extent of corruption in a simple project like road laying? Its easy to type isn't it? We just need some knowledge of english, the qwerty keyboard, and a few fingers. thats all.
Amrut (pune) replies to Sam
8 mins ago (01:45 AM)
Dear Mr sam Do you have any stand except critising people from anna's team , any way i feel pround atalest your name will apperared in any form of movement which will be benifatable to india ......
Let us wait until winter session for Jan lok pal (India)
33 mins ago (01:20 AM)
Otherwise, Public would come on roads...
Guest (Canada)
35 mins ago (01:18 AM)
We must understand that the object of Anna's movement is to put brakes on corruption, and achieve good governance, and not the removal of Congress. Hopefully by the passage of a strong Lok Pal Bill, in this winter session, congress would have redeemed a lot of lost goodwill and set the process of commissioning a clean Govt. Therefore, there is no need to create a new political now. However if Congress fails to deliver then what? Surely Congress would as a consequence be routed at-the polls. To be replaced by which party? The one which cuts their limbs rather than their heads. To avoid this from happening Anna should facilitate the formation of a new party. But only after all his efforts to get anti corruption laws passed are frustrated. So that this new Look party is as qualified and clean as it should be, I suggest Anna to organize an open competition on an all India basis on the lines of IAS and field thus selected candidates. (Ensuring that party has one leader, and four hundred followers and not four hundred leaders and one leader). In short, the decision to form a new party should be taken after watching this coming winter session.
Avaani (kasi) replies to Guest
0 min ago (01:53 AM)
You talk sense. But the natural fallout of the movement is that we will not get any LokPal, instead we get a THIRD FRONT government that take the country backwards by another 5 years. I think Anna team must stop playing politics, instead they should be focused on LokPal issue.
Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) replies to Guest
20 mins ago (01:33 AM)
good. but there are some confused people here who bring in political parties, castes and everything else that randomly comes to their minds. i want yedurappa, the reddys and the congress mps and every body else who was involved in some act of unethical money 'making' to go to jail. at the end of the day the simple fact remains, you and i go to work, earn money and pay taxes and this money is being taken by people who RULE us? What exactly is that ? Democracy ? Im sorry but the first word that comes to my mind is Slavery.
pavank848 (USA)
35 mins ago (01:18 AM)
Anna is misleading the nation,
usaravelli (gatthar lolli) replies to pavank848
16 mins ago (01:37 AM)
if that's your view, then you might want to vote for Congress in 2014.....good luck.
Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) replies to pavank848
28 mins ago (01:25 AM)
you are misleading yourself.
Pulakesh Upadhyaya (Silchar) replies to Binoy Rakesh
18 mins ago (01:35 AM)
Anna is leading the nation, when Manmohan Singh has ceased to do so, and his ministers started misleading the nation
SUMER CHANDRA JAIN (Mumbai)
39 mins ago (01:14 AM)
Yes
Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey)
46 mins ago (01:07 AM)
Its not over until you and your chamchas in the government sitting in all the high offices in the government ensure that there is an independent body that will punish the corrupt, especially those in your current government.
rahul (delhi)
46 mins ago (01:07 AM)
now all the bjp/rss/vhp fan following will begin congress thrashing.. and one comment will be twisted and turned and will be posted a hundred times.. lets start with "TOI IS A CONGRESS AGENT".and then i wud get the following reply "looks like yu r congress agent,yu r diggy" blah blah,blah...
ZillaNew (usa) replies to rahul
3 mins ago (01:50 AM)
All right rahul, so you think all of us are bjp/rss following, right? How big is the size of RSS party in front of Congress, I think very small, right? So in that case, doesnt Congress have it's fan following, or there isnt any, anymore? Are we(if we are from rss/bjp) stopping congress fan following to come on board here? That aside, let's see your analysis of Current Indian Affairs, is India running just fine or there are any issues if you think?
Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) replies to rahul
29 mins ago (01:24 AM)
face it, all parties are corrupt - but most people are angry particularly about the 2G scam which may have resulted in losses of upto 176000crores. Even by conservative estimates, it could easily be half a lakh crore rupees. Thats more than any other scam in all history. reason enough to be angry with the current government. as far as the hardliners go, yes like in all cases they will ride piggyback and try to take advantage of any move against their "enemy". But to say that this whole movement is rss driven is a convenient, easy and baseless counter-attack against the anti corruption movement. A vast majority of the people who showed up for Anna, came out of their own will, unlike the largely paid rallies that politicians bring out. And you should see the numbers, they were overwhelming and no politician will ever have this kind of following, ever. Because this does not involve personal gain. They are doing it for the good of everyone including themselves.
Archana Das (delhi)
56 mins ago (12:57 AM)
Mr PM you are one of the most learned and educated person not only in India, but in the world. You have also stayed and seen some of the best country in the world. You could take action against corruption on your own, instead of a 74 years old man had to raise your conscience after going through without food and water for 12 days. I have lost all respect on you. Sorry.
cduttaiitkgp (Kharagpur)
1 hr ago (12:52 AM)
Man Mohan Singh speaks differently in different times.When Anna Hazare go for fast he did not show any purpose in it.He has put his foot in the mouth.He served the interest of corporate regulators since he become finance minister. His political responsibility is to prioritizing the financial needs of the influntial corporate. With the mass movement,the government fear the people,and it's this fears of being replaced or kicked out of the office. He should prepare to stay with his others ministers in tihar jail.
Sridhar (Bangalore)
1 hr ago (12:47 AM)
What our unfortunate PM wanted to convey. PM started Lying. What did he and his UPA 2 government do towards effective LokPal bill? After tctically curtailing Anna's fast at RamLeela Maiden PM and Sonia/NAC's members are working hard to push "Anti Communal Violence Bill" and then dilution of RTI and then useless Food Security Bill. Not even a single minute the standing committe, UPA 2 ministers and NAC spent discussing Jan LokPal Bill. Having lost Hissar by-election PM Manmohan Singh is doing usual distorted speech to stop Anna further from camapaigning against Congress. By Saying Anna's movement has served its purpose, he wanted Anna to end the movement and PM himself don't want to end protecting his corrupt political boss and corrupt ministers. Mr. PM 120 crore people of this country is NOT fools as you and Sonia thinks of.
Sumana Baruah (Jorhat) replies to Sridhar
49 mins ago (01:04 AM)
Cong is the single largest party right now in center that means majority of voters like Cong. Pls donot put the 120 core peoples figure..
Siddhartha Mondal (Calcutta, India)
1 hr ago (12:45 AM)
see who is talking!!! i hope this comments has sonia's approval!! HIC!!
shishodiya (London)
1 hr ago (12:44 AM)
Another cunning diplomacy to ask support from Mahatma Anna Hazare. Of late corrupt politicians have started taking both sides 'for and against'. Congress has mastered the art of 'speaking for and against' the movement therefore taking space of both centres. It has effectively taken media coverage of opposition as well as ruling party. One set of jokers will accuse movement as 'Corrupt' and another set of jokers will praise it. Great Tamasha or as said by Mr. Manishankar Iyer, Congress is Circus. But let us not rest on any of these media hungry corrupt politicians certificates, we must not rest untill we achieve our JANLOKPAL. We must only judge them from their performance, come what may, we must only rest when we see results nothing less. I am sure with these certificates, Corrupt Congress wish to convey that enough is enough, let Mahatma Anna Hazare switch sides and support Congres, look we are in election 2012 and 2014 mode now. So they want to save their face, this time will not come again untill 5 years. We cannot wait, we have to give in the same coin, in which they gave us. Can we all forget what happened in Ramlila and Parliament? NO. Defeat all sitting MP's. That should be our goal. Let us work on it. They will realise their mistake, and will pass JANLOKPAL. Remember, all political parties are corrupt, do not support any-support only JANLOKPAL.
jo (Rome)
1 hr ago (12:41 AM)
koodos to PM for your wonderful judgement.
ZillaNew (usa)
1 hr ago (12:41 AM)
Wrong Mr PM, ANNA has initiated the Movement, and it's PURPOSE WILL BE SERVED WHEN WE GET JAN LOKPAL, and till that time( and after also ) we'll all be with ANNA and WE'LL BE ANNA for you. There is not just one ANNA, there are millions and millions. LOOK AROUND YOU, THERE ARE MANY MANY ANNAs with you. So better get us OUR JAN LOKPAL.
Converted Muslim (Germany)
1 hr ago (12:39 AM)
East or West Congress is the best. I know congress will bring a better Janpal what we have not thought in our dream. Better than Anna Janpal.
ZillaNew (usa)
1 hr ago (12:34 AM)
Wrong Mr PM, ANNA has initiated the Movement, and it's PURPOSE WILL BE SERVED WHEN WE GET JAN LOKPAL, and till that time( and after also ) we'll all be with ANNA and WE'LL BE ANNA for you. There is not just one ANNA, there are millions and millions. LOOK AROUND YOU, THERE ARE MANY MANY ANNAs with you. So better get us OUR JAN LOKPAL.
misraak (California)
1 hr ago (12:32 AM)
Comforting words must match up with passage of Jan Lokpal bill in time bound manner with all elements suggested by team Anna.
nativepeoplesparty (Kalyan)
1 hr ago (12:32 AM)
We think and we do not agree with PM Mr. Manmohan Singh that Anna Hajare has done any noteworthy service to the nation by his whimsical movement that he called Jan lok pall bill for end of corruption. We firmly think and believe that the existing laws are sufficient and capable to deal with any type of corruption. For example the Supreme Court has taken cognizance of of PLI filled by some social activist for inquiry of Mr. Anna Hajare's corruption as pointed out by Justice PB Sawant in his report .No body stopped Mr. LK Advani to file report with ABC/ CBI or police Dept. against the offer of cash for vote as alleged by his party men. One can see and understand that unless some one makes a complent of corruption how the concerned department will take action? Under what rules Mr. Yeddi and other high profile people are in Jail? Is it not existing rules? What we lack is morality. As nation and people collectively and individually we lack the this morality and blame the laws. We oppose Lok pall bill as it is not required. Nativist D.D.Raut, President, Native People's Party
Sayak Bhattacharya (Guwahati, India) replies to nativepeoplesparty
41 mins ago (01:12 AM)
You will do great service to the natives and people of this great Nation by winding up your party!!
rahul (delhi) replies to nativepeoplesparty
43 mins ago (01:10 AM)
wot yu ve said is true.. but i cant understand y so many ppl diagree.. i guess they dont want to hear anything else which doesnt include"hate congress,toi is paid agent" those kind of comments will get highest "agrees" .. yur point is apt.. v lack morality..
vaidyashivram2 (PUNE)
1 hr ago (12:32 AM)
No PM, it had not yet served the purpose. Still, you are there and you are lading the corrupted Congress at the Centre the purpose cannot be served at all. We are thankful to Anna and his team that he made us aware that the Congress and its corrupted Minister had looted the country’s wealth in lacs of crores rupees. The Purpose will be served only when each one of Hindustanis pulls you from your post and bury the corrupted Congress with all its leaders in Sahara Desert. Your countdown had already began with Khadakwasla and Hisssar Bye Poll. You need to take a note of this and recover your IJJAT in last two and a half years. You will not get a second opportunity from now onwards to lead the country again. Anna Team aur poore desh kaa wada hai aapase !!!
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Bharat Ratna, the highest civilian award winner (at January 2012, one Kisan, asked me to write a suitable acceptance speech. Such is my name and fame.

Price of this speech? One Cowrie. Kisan is a village idiot from a parched land called Ralegan Siddhi. He is jobless for good many years but gets his Armmy (civilian) Driver's pension every moth, provided he shows up at the Arny facilities close to him. It is in Pune. Southern Division Command in what is generally called the "Camp." Near Pune Race Course. Military owns it lock, stock and barrel. They have their own military police, MP, military headquarters, military jail and military mess, Oops, common eating place.

Kisan has to travel there, identify himself, accept the money and sign for it, Oops, he is illiterate, therefore, he uses his thumb print, instead.

Having learned his dire poverty and dismal future, both before and after getting Bharat Ratna award, I agreed to take two Cowries.

Here it is:

I am Mahatma Annaji+ji+Ji=101 Ji. There is no Mahatma before me and there shall be no Mahatma after me. I am the last messenger form the God, Oops, Hindu God (name withheld).

I humbly accept this award in the name of all those brave people of India. May all 3.3 million Hindu Gods, Goddesses, Sadhus, Sanyasis, babas, Mahatmas, Bhagwans, Gurus, Maha Gurus, Swamys, Godmen and Godwomen shower me with flower petal (preferably lotus) right now.

I am ready. Silence. Camera. Action.

Namaste sadaa vatsale matru bhoome
twayaa Hindu bhoome sukham vardhitoham
mahaa mangale punya bhoome twadarthe
patatwesha kaayo namaste namaste

prabho shaktiman Hindu raastraanga bhoota
ime saadaram twaam namaamo vayam
twadeeyaaya kaaryaaya baddhaa kateeeyam
shubhaam aashisham dehi tatpoortaye

ajyaan cha vishwasya deheesha shaktim
susheelam jagadyena namram bhaveth
shrutam chaiva yat kantakaa keerna maargam
swayam sweekritham na sukham kaarayet

samutkarsha nishreyasasyaika mugram
param saadhanam naama veeravratam
tadantah sphuratwakshayaa dheya nishtaa
hridantah prajaa gartuteevraanisham

vijetri chana samhataa kaarya shaktir
vidhaayaasya dharmasya samrakshanam
param vaibhavam netum etat swaraashtram
samrthaa bhavatwaashishaa tebhrusham

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PM Manmohan Singh: Anna Hazare-Bewegung hat ihren Zweck erfüllt
PTI | 20 Oktober 2011, 00.10 Uhr IST
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PM Manmohan Singh am Mittwoch sagte, die Regierung arbeitete, um ein wirksames Lokpal setzen.

ON SPECIAL FLUGZEUG BOARD PM'S: Hinweis darauf, dass Anna Hazare der Bewegung hat "seinen Zweck erfüllt", sagte Ministerpräsident Manmohan Singh am Mittwoch die Regierung daran arbeitet, in Einrichtung eines wirksamen Lokpal die eine Versicherung für Menschen, dass Korruption "nicht als einen Tusch wäre way of life ".

Er sagte, die Korruption zu verletzen Entwicklung, Governance neben den Armen und seine Regierung wurde verpflichtet, "das System bereinigen".

"Nun, ich möchte nicht diese Gelegenheit nutzen, um jeden einzelnen zu kritisieren", sagte er Journalisten auf die Frage, ob Hazare sei "unfair" durch eine kontinuierliche, ihn anzugreifen und seine Regierung.

"Ich denke, Anna Hazareji-Bewegung hat ihren Zweck erfüllt. Wir sind alle zusammen, um sicherzustellen, dass wir in Platz haben, bevor lange eine effektive Lokpal" Singh gegeben, während im Gespräch mit begleitenden Journalisten auf dem Weg zurück nach Hause von Pretoria, wo er die besucht Indien Brasilien und Südafrika (IBSA) Summit.

Er sagte, die Regierung zu erwarten Parlament für eine effektive Lokpal Bill vote ", die eine Versicherung für die Menschen, dass Korruption nicht als ein Weg des Lebens gedeihen wird."

Singh nicht einverstanden mit dem Vorschlag, dass die Korruption eine unvermeidliche Folgen der Entwicklung als ähnliche Fragen wurden zu finden Resonanz in der Öffentlichkeit Proteste in anderen IBSA Mitgliedsländer - Brasilien und Südafrika.

"Ich kann nicht tragen, dass angesichts Selbstzufriedenheit. Corruption schmerzt Entwicklungsprozesse, Korruption schadet den Armen, Korruption beeinflusst die Qualität der Regierungsführung. Daher kann ich nicht sagen Korruption ist etwas, was unvermeidlich ist, in der Gesellschaft", erklärte er.

PM verurteilt Angriff auf Kejriwal

Premierminister Manmohan Singh verurteilte auch den physischen Angriff auf Team Anna Mitglied Arvind Kejriwal, sagte, es sind zivilisierte Weise zum Ausdruck zu bringen "Wut und Frustration" von niemandem.

"Es gibt keinen Platz für Gewalt in unserer Demokratie. Deshalb ist jeder Akt der Gewalt zu verurteilen. In diesem Punkt bin ich absolut klar, dass nichts los ist, die von der Verfolgung von Gewalt, wie auch immer gewonnen werden kann böse empfinden," Singh sagte Reportern.

Er war auf eine Frage antworten zu dem Angriff auf Kejriwal in Lucknow am Dienstag.
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Kishor (STL USA)
2 Minuten vor (01.51)
Herr PM, werden die Menschen bis in den Winter-Sitzung warten. Dann wirst du ganze Land auf den Straßen zu sehen ..... zeigen den Willen für eine starke lokpal und nehmen Sie Kredit-oder Kongress ist in Schwierigkeiten.
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karthik (Chennai)
2 Minuten vor (01.51)
Viele Menschen in Indien kritisieren diese Sardarji Manmhan Singh als Rückgrat und unterwürfig. Ich denke, seine Zeit war das Beste für Indien, in seiner Leistungen Look, der die gewählten Führer nicht tun konnte .1). Abschaffung der Lizenz Raj 2). 100 Tage Beschäftigung im ländlichen Raum Schema 3). RTI 4). RTE 5). Indischen Industrieunternehmen im globalen Betrieb Software-Unternehmen, Tata, Automobil-, Stahl in Großbritannien. Mittal Steel in Frankreich, Vedanta Mineralien, in Australien, Airtel, Communications in Südafrika ... Schließlich Lokpal. Lassen Sie uns jubeln ihm statt zu kritisieren ihn.,
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Avaani (kasi)
2 Minuten vor (01.51)
Wir sollten erkennen, dass Indien das Glück, unter Leitung von gebildeten Menschen wie MMS, die den meisten anderen Ländern nur von geträumt werden wird. Indien sollte es Führer wie MMS zu sprechen, und es ihnen ermöglichen, ihre Arbeit zu tun. Während es leicht, hinter Rallye über reaktive Bewegungen ist, können diese Bewegungen nach Mitteln politischen Nutzen optimiert werden, was zu nichts. Also mein Appell an die gebildete Klasse ist, dass - zumindest sollten Sie Ihre Reife und Exposition Welt gelten immer und beraten die gewöhnliche Klasse besser. Ich weiß nicht, Kongress Pflege als eine Partei, aber das Land muss durch eine stabile Regierung, die sehr wichtig ist, ausgeschlossen werden. MMS maynot haben nichts mit Annas LokPal oder Jan LokPal oder Harijan LokPal tun. Er ist über das, was machbar ist aus Gesetzgebung stehen Point & Umsetzung stehen Punkt, der einige Änderungen an der Anna LokPal benötigen könnten sprechen. Man sollte verstehen, dass die Ausarbeitung einer starken LokPal allein ist das Ende der indischen Herrlichkeit in der Welt.
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ZillaNew (usa)
9 Minuten vor (01.44)
Herr PM, hat Anna-Bewegung gerade erst begonnen und es wird serviert, wenn wir JAN LOKPAL BILL implementiert bekommen. Bis dahin gibt es Millionen und Abermillionen ANNAS ganzen Welt für seine PASSAGE erfolgreich. Wir sind ein TEAM ANNA VON MILLIONEN in der Größe.
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Gary (usa)
13 Minuten vor (01.40)
Wie nett von pm zu erkennen, dass Korruption sollte nach 64 Jahren der Unabhängigkeit und eine Bewegung von Menschen zu gehen, was hast du ignorant bis jetzt?
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Nikita (Mumbai)
13 Minuten vor (01.40)
Was für ein Glück, um MMS als Premierminister von Indien haben, sind Indianer klüger, mms zu wählen und nicht die der dumbo Advani
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Vilas Ravat (kollhapur) Antworten auf Nikita
2 Minuten vor (01.51)
großer Mann, ersetzen Digvijay
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jsingh142000 (Houston)
19 Minuten vor (01.34)
Scheint eine gewisse Beruhigung für Team Anna werden .....
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usaravelli (gatthar lolli)
21 Minuten vor (01.32)
Es ist nicht für die PM oder die Präsidenten der beiden Kongress-Partei BJP zu entscheiden, wann und ob die Anna Bewegung seinen Zweck erfüllt ...... sie besser, was sie zu konzentrieren müssen Stick, also vorstellen und übergeben Sie einen starken lokpal bill ...... das Volk wird entscheiden, wenn die Anna Bewegung kann ihren Zweck erfüllt haben. Die PM wird gut daran tun, bedenken, dass weder Anna noch die Leute zu ihm Bericht über eine formale Befehlskette, für ihn zu überholen, um über seine Entscheidungen. Es ist anders herum ..... das Volk wird entscheiden, ob die Uhr und sein Kabinett wird ordnungsgemäß funktioniert oder nicht.
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Hari (Bharat)
23 Minuten vor (01.30)
Herr Ministerpräsident, danke für die Anerkennung, dass Anna-Bewegung hat ihren Zweck erfüllt. Hat der Kongress und Ihre Regierung diente dem Zweck, Sie sind in der Regierung? Der Kongress hat entschieden, Indien die seit der Unabhängigkeit ...... Unsere Entwicklung und Armut Metriken spricht eine Tonne auf Ihrem / Kongress Leistung. Buck und bedienen unsere Zwecke, für die Sie sich in der Regierung.
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Sumana Baruah (Jorhat) Antworten auf Hari
16 Minuten vor (01.37)
Indien ist eine Supermacht Nation in der 6. Stelle .. Es sollte beachtet werden ..
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Vilas Ravat (kollhapur) Antworten auf Sumana Baruah
0 min ago (1.53)
Von dort, wo diese Daten gesammelt, komm heraus aus Indien dann wirst du sehen Unterschied zwischen Indien und andere Nation
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Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) Antworten auf Sumana Baruah
8 Minuten vor (01.45)
es könnte leicht gewesen, und hätte no.2 haben, wo China derzeit ist, trotz sie mit startete mit einer Wirtschaft, etwa die gleiche Größe oder sogar ein wenig kleiner als bei uns etwa 30 bis 35 Jahren.
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Really (Ind)
25 Minuten vor (01.28)
Saving Grace! Nach all den schlechten Karma (unten aufgeführt ... es wird niemals enden), und plötzlich versucht, zu versöhnen, wird nicht funktionieren. Wir wollen Verantwortung für alle schlechtes Karma bis heute. Alle korrupten Regierungen Staat und zentrale Macht zu bröckeln. Korrupte Politiker sollten hinter Gittern zu gehen. Schwarz Geld soll zum Erwerb eigener gehen. Wo ist Yeddu ist schwarzes Geld? Warum PC nicht untersucht? Wiki Lecks info noch nicht durch Govt freigegeben. Es gibt keine $ $ $ markiert. Liste der schlechtes Karma: 1) Beating up Ramdev Team in mitten in der Nacht und die Schuld auf die Polizei 2) Drohende Anna das gleiche Schicksal 3 zugewandt) ihn zu verhaften, bevor seine Bewegung für J Lokpal 4) Sagen Parlament ist die höchste und gewählt werden Mitglieder; Wer ist Anna? 5) Staying Mutter für 13 d bei Anna war im Hungerstreik 6) Nicht mit Schwerpunkt auf der Bekämpfung der Korruption, aber mit Schwerpunkt nannte sie einen RSS / BJP Bewegung 7) Der Versuch, Kredite von RG Rede zu nehmen
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Sam (Pune)
31 Minuten vor (01.22)
Wir geben viel zu viel Wert auf Individuen wie kejriwala. Er ist haltlos, ohne Sozialethik mit politischen Ambitionen in ein kurzes Gastspiel. Er ist irreführend, die Menschen mit seinem hisar Rolle und die jüngsten Erklärungen.
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Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) Antworten auf Sam
2 Minuten vor (01.51)
wenn man viel zu viel Intelligenz, um Menschen, die Beute, und viel zu viel Wert auf Menschen, die dynastischen Einfluss nutzen um zu versuchen, PM (raul gandi) geworden zu geben, ist es ratsam, mehr, mehr und mehr, unbeirrbaren Wert auf Leute wie geben Kejriwal. Sie haben gesehen, seine Arbeit? oder tun Sie etwas über seine Ausbildung und was er als Aktivist hatte nach dem Verlassen IRS? es ist leicht zu Aussagen gegen Anna und Kejriwal machen. Wie viele Dürre schlug Dörfer haben Sie modernisiert und begrünt? Wie viele Menschen haben Sie über die Art und das Ausmaß der Korruption in einem einfachen Projekt wie Straßen-Verlegung aufgeklärt? Es ist einfach zu geben, nicht wahr? Wir brauchen nur ein paar Kenntnisse in Englisch, die QWERTY-Tastatur und ein paar Finger. das ist alles.
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Amrut (Pune) Antworten auf Sam
8 Minuten vor (01.45)
Sehr geehrter Herr sam Haben Sie stehen außer kritisieren Menschen aus Annas Team, irgendwie fühle ich mich pround atalest Ihr Name wird in jeder Form von Bewegung, die sein benifatable nach Indien apperared ......
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Lassen Sie uns bis zum Winter-Session warten Jan lok pal (Indien)
33 Minuten vor (01.20)
Andernfalls würde Öffentliche auf den Straßen kommen ...
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Gast (Kanada)
35 Minuten vor (01.18)
Wir müssen verstehen, dass das Objekt von Annas Bewegung zu bremsen Korruption setzen und erreichen gute Regierungsführung, und nicht die Entfernung des Kongresses ist. Hoffentlich wird der Durchgang eines starken Lok Pal Bill, in diesem Winter Session, würde Kongress eine Menge verloren Goodwill eingelöst haben und setzen den Prozess der Inbetriebnahme einer sauberen Govt. Daher besteht keine Notwendigkeit, eine neue politische jetzt erstellen. Doch wenn der Kongress nicht so liefern, was? Sicher Congress hätte zur Folge at-den Umfragen geführt werden. Um durch die Partei ersetzt werden? Die eine, die ihre Glieder Schnitte, anstatt ihre Köpfe. Um zu vermeiden, dass dies geschieht Anna sollte die Bildung einer neuen Partei. Aber erst, nachdem alle seine Bemühungen um Korruptionsbekämpfung Gesetze erlassen zu bekommen sind frustriert. Damit dieser neue Look Partei als qualifizierte und sauber wie sie sein sollte, schlage ich vor, Anna zu einem offenen Wettbewerb auf einem ganz Indien Basis nach dem Vorbild der IAS und Feld so ausgewählten Kandidaten zu organisieren. (Sicherstellen, dass Partei einen Führer, und 400 Anhänger hat und nicht 400 Staats-und Regierungschefs und einem Führer). Kurz gesagt, sollte die Entscheidung, eine neue Partei zu gründen, nachdem ich im kommenden Winter-Session getroffen werden.
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Avaani (kasi) Antworten auf Gast
0 min ago (1.53)
Sie sprechen Sinn. Aber die natürliche Folgen der Bewegung ist, dass wir erhalten keine LokPal, sondern wir bekommen eine dritte Front Regierung, dass das Land zurück zu gehen um weitere 5 Jahre. Ich denke, Anna Team muss aufhören zu spielen Politik, sondern sie sollte auf LokPal Thema fokussiert werden.
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Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) Antworten auf Gast
20 Minuten vor (01.33)
gut. aber es gibt einige Verwirrung Leute hier, die in politischen Parteien, Kasten und alles andere, zufällig kommt, ihren Geist zu bringen. Ich möchte yedurappa, die Reddys und das Kongresszentrum mps und jeder Körper anders, die in irgendeiner Handlung unethisch Geld 'machen' ins Gefängnis zu gehen beteiligt war. am Ende des Tages die einfache Tatsache bleibt, Sie und ich zur Arbeit gehen, Geld verdienen und Steuern zahlen und dieses Geld wird von Menschen, die uns RULE genommen? Was genau ist das? Demokratie? Im sorry, aber das erste Wort, das mir in den Sinn kommt, ist Sklaverei.
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pavank848 (USA)
35 Minuten vor (01.18)
Anna ist eine Irreführung der Nation,
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usaravelli (gatthar lolli) Antworten auf pavank848
16 Minuten vor (01.37)
wenn es das ist Ihre Ansicht, dann möchten Sie vielleicht für den Kongress im Jahr 2014 ..... Glück zu stimmen.
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Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) Antworten auf pavank848
28 Minuten vor (01.25)
Sie sind irreführend dich.
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Pulakesh Upadhyaya (Silchar) Antworten auf Binoy Rakesh
18 Minuten vor (01.35)
Anna ist führend bei der Nation, als Manmohan Singh hat aufgehört, so zu tun, und seine Minister begann Irreführung der Nation
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SUMER CHANDRA JAIN (Mumbai)
39 Minuten vor (01.14)
Ja
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Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey)
46 Minuten vor (01.07)
Es ist nicht mehr, bis Sie und Ihre chamchas in der Regierung sitzen in allen hohen Ämtern in der Regierung sicherzustellen, dass es eine unabhängige Stelle, die das korrupte bestrafen wird, insbesondere in der aktuellen Regierung.
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Rahul (delhi)
46 Minuten vor (01.07)
jetzt alle die BJP / rss / VHP Fangemeinde beginnt Kongress Prügel .. und ein Kommentar wird gedreht und gewendet werden und wird geschrieben hundertmal werden .. Fangen wir an mit "TOI ist ein Kongress AGENT". und dann i wud erhalten die folgende Antwort "sieht aus wie yu r Kongress-Agent, yu r diggy" blah blah, blah ...
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ZillaNew (usa) Antworten auf rahul
3 Minuten vor (01.50)
Alle Rechte rahul, so dass Sie denken, wir sind alle BJP / rss folgenden, nicht wahr? Wie groß ist die Größe des RSS Partei vor dem Congress, denke ich, sehr klein, nicht wahr? So in diesem Fall doesnt Kongress haben es Fangemeinde, oder es gibt keine, nicht mehr? Sind wir (wenn wir von rss / BJP sind) zu stoppen Kongress Fangemeinde an Bord hierher gekommen? Davon abgesehen, lassen Sie uns Ihre Analyse der aktuellen Indian Affairs sehen, ist Indien läuft ganz gut oder gibt es irgendwelche Probleme, wenn Sie denken?
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Binoy Rakesh (Metuchen, New Jersey) Antworten auf rahul
29 Minuten vor (01.24)
face it, sind alle Parteien korrupt - aber die meisten Leute sind wütend vor allem über die 2G-Betrug was zu Verlusten von bis zu 176000crores geführt haben könnten. Selbst konservative Schätzungen, könnte es leicht ein halbes lakh Millionen Rupien werden. Das ist mehr als jeder andere Betrug in der Geschichte. Grund genug, wütend zu sein mit der aktuellen Regierung. so weit wie die Hardliner gehen, ja wie in allen Fällen werden sie reiten huckepack und versuchen, Vorteile aus jeglicher Form der Bewegung zu nehmen gegen ihre "Feinde". Aber zu sagen, dass diese ganze Bewegung ist rss angetrieben ist eine bequeme, einfache und grundlose Gegenangriff gegen die Anti-Korruptions-Bewegung. Eine große Mehrheit der Menschen, die sich für Anna zeigte, kamen aus ihren eigenen Willen, im Gegensatz zu den weitgehend bezahlt Rallyes, dass die Politiker bringen. Und Sie sollten die Zahlen sehen, sie waren überwältigend und kein Politiker wird jemals diese Art von folgenden, immer. Da dies nicht zu persönlichen Gewinn. Sie tun es für das Wohl aller, einschließlich sich.
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Archana Das (delhi)
56 Minuten vor (12.57)
Herr PM du bist einer der am meisten gelehrten und gebildeten Menschen nicht nur in Indien, sondern in der ganzen Welt. Sie haben auch geblieben und sehen einige der besten Land der Welt. Sie könnten Maßnahmen gegen Korruption auf eigene Faust zu nehmen, statt eines 74 Jahre alte Mann hatte an Ihr Gewissen, nachdem sie durch, ohne Nahrung und Wasser für 12 Tage zu erhöhen. Ich habe allen Respekt für Sie verloren. Entschuldigung.
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cduttaiitkgp (Kharagpur)
1 hr ago (0.52)
Man Mohan Singh spricht in den verschiedenen times.When Anna Hazare gehen schnell er sich nicht zeigen, irgendeinen Zweck in it.He hat seinen Fuß in die mouth.He diente dem Interesse des Unternehmens Regulatoren, seit er Finanzminister werden. Seine politische Aufgabe ist es, die Priorisierung der finanziellen Bedürfnisse der influntial corporate. Mit der Massenbewegung, die Angst der Regierung des Volkes, und es ist diese Ängste, die ersetzt oder aus dem Büro geworfen. Er sollte bereit sein, mit seinen anderen Ministern in Tihar Gefängnis bleiben.
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Sridhar (Bangalore)
1 hr ago (0.47)
Was unsere unglücklichen PM wollte vermitteln. PM begann Lying. Was haben er und seine UPA 2 Regierung zur wirksamen LokPal Rechnung machen? Nach tctically Einschränkung Anna ist schnell bei RamLeela Maiden PM und Sonia / NAC "s Mitglieder arbeiten hart daran," Anti Communal Violence Bill "und dann Verdünnung von RTI und dann nutzlos Food Security Bill schieben. Nicht einmal eine einzige Minute des Ständigen Ausschusses, UPA 2 Minister und NAC verbrachte diskutieren Jan LokPal Bill. Nach dem Verlust Hissar Ergänzungswahl PM Manmohan Singh tut üblichen verzerrte Sprache zu Anna weiterer Anschlag aus camapaigning gegen den Kongreß. Indem man sagt Anna-Bewegung hat ihren Zweck erfüllt, wollte er Anna, die Bewegung und PM selbst nicht wollen, dass bis zum Ende der Wahrung seiner korrupten politischen Chef und korrupten Ministern Ende. Herr PM 120 crore Menschen in diesem Land ist nicht dumm, wie Sie und Sonia denkt.
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Sumana Baruah (Jorhat) Antworten auf Sridhar
49 Minuten vor (01.04)
Cong ist der größte Partei gerade jetzt in der Mitte das heißt Mehrheit der Wähler, wie Cong. Pls donot setzen die 120 Core Völker Figur ..
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Siddhartha Mondal (Kalkutta, Indien)
1 hr ago (0.45)
sehen, wer gerade spricht! Ich hoffe, dieser Kommentar hat sonia Zustimmung! HIC!
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shishodiya (London)
1 hr ago (0.44)
Eine weitere schlaue Diplomatie Unterstützung von Mahatma Anna Hazare fragen. In der letzten Zeit korrupte Politiker haben angefangen, beide Seiten 'für und wider ". Der Kongress hat die Kunst des "spricht für und gegen" die Bewegung daher unter Raum der beiden Zentren gemeistert. Es hat effektiv Berichterstattung in den Medien der Opposition sowie Regierungspartei übernommen. Ein Satz von Joker wird Bewegung als "korrupt" zu beschuldigen und eine andere Gruppe von Joker wird es loben. Große Tamasha oder wie gesagt durch Herrn Manishankar Iyer, ist Congress Circus. Aber lasst uns nicht auf eines dieser Medien hungrig korrupte Politiker Zertifikate Rest müssen wir nicht ruhen, bis wir unsere JANLOKPAL erreichen. Wir müssen nur beurteilen, sie aus ihrer Leistung, was auch kommen mag, wir müssen nur Ruhe, wenn wir Ergebnisse nicht weniger zu sehen. Ich bin sicher, mit diesen Zertifikaten, Corrupt Congress zu vermitteln, dass genug genug ist, lassen Mahatma Anna Hazare die Seiten wechseln und Unterstützung Congres, schauen wir in Wahlen 2012 und 2014-Modus jetzt wünschen. Und sie, um ihr Gesicht zu retten wollen, ist dieses Mal nicht wieder kommen, bis 5 Jahre. Wir können nicht warten, wir müssen in der gleichen Medaille, in die sie uns gaben, zu geben. Können wir alle vergessen, was in Ramlila und Parlament? NO. Besiegt alle sitzen MP ist. Das sollte unser Ziel sein. Lassen Sie uns daran arbeiten. Sie werden erkennen, ihre Fehler, und passieren JANLOKPAL. Denken Sie daran, alle politischen Parteien korrupt sind, unterstützen keine Unterstützung nur JANLOKPAL.
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jo (Rom)
1 hr ago (0.41)
koodos zu PM für Ihre wunderbare Urteil.
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ZillaNew (usa)
1 hr ago (0.41)
Falsche Herr PM, hat Anna die Bewegung initiiert, und es ist Zweck wird gedient, wenn wir Jan LOKPAL zu bekommen, und bis zu dieser Zeit (und nach auch) wir alle mit ANNA und WIR ANNA für Sie sein. Es ist nicht nur eine ANNA, es gibt Millionen und Abermillionen. Schauen Sie sich um, Es gibt viele viele ANNAS mit Ihnen. So besser uns unser Jan LOKPAL.
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Konvertierte Muslime (Deutschland)
1 hr ago (0.39)
Ost oder West Congress ist die beste. Ich weiß, Kongress bringt eine bessere Janpal, was wir nicht in unserem Traum gedacht. Besser als Anna Janpal.
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ZillaNew (usa)
1 hr ago (0.34)
Falsche Herr PM, hat Anna die Bewegung initiiert, und es ist Zweck wird gedient, wenn wir Jan LOKPAL zu bekommen, und bis zu dieser Zeit (und nach auch) wir alle mit ANNA und WIR ANNA für Sie sein. Es ist nicht nur eine ANNA, es gibt Millionen und Abermillionen. Schauen Sie sich um, Es gibt viele viele ANNAS mit Ihnen. So besser uns unser Jan LOKPAL.
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misraak (California)
1 hr ago (0.32)
Tröstenden Worte müssen übereinstimmen mit Durchgang von Jan Lokpal Rechnung in die Zeit gebunden Weise mit allen Elementen von Team Anna vorgeschlagen.
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nativepeoplesparty (Kalyan)
1 hr ago (0.32)
Wir denken und wir nicht mit PM Mr. Manmohan Singh sich einig, dass Anna Hajare hat keine nennenswerten Dienst an der Nation gemacht durch seine skurrilen Bewegung, dass er Jan lok pall Rechnung für Ende der Korruption genannt. Wir sind fest davon denken und zu glauben, dass die bestehenden Gesetze ausreichend und in der Lage, mit jeder Art von Korruption befassen werden. Zum Beispiel hat der Supreme Court zur Kenntnis von PLI durch einige soziale Aktivistin für Anfrage von Herrn Anna Hajare der Korruption wies darauf hin, durch die Justiz PB Sawant in seinem Bericht gefüllt genommen. Kein Körper gestoppt Mr. LK Advani zu berichten, mit ABC / CBI oder die Datei Polizei Abt. gegen das Angebot von Geld zur Abstimmung wie von seiner Partei Männer behaupteten. Man kann sehen und verstehen, dass es sei denn, jemand macht einen complent der Korruption, wie die betroffenen Abteilung Maßnahmen zu ergreifen? Unter welchen Regeln Mr. Yeddi und andere hochkarätige Leute im Gefängnis? Ist es nicht bestehenden Regeln? Was uns fehlt, ist die Moral. Als Nation und die Menschen kollektiv und individuell fehlen uns die diese Moral und Schuld der Gesetze. Wir sind gegen Lok pall Rechnung, da es nicht erforderlich ist. Nativist DDRaut, Präsident, Native Volkspartei
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Sayak Bhattacharya (Guwahati, Indien) Antworten auf nativepeoplesparty
41 Minuten vor (01.12)
Sie werden große Verdienste um die Eingeborenen und die Menschen dieses großen Nation machen durch Aufwickeln Ihrer Partei!
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Rahul (delhi) Antworten auf nativepeoplesparty
43 Minuten vor (01.10)
wot yu ve sagte, ist wahr .. aber ich kann verstehen, y so viele ppl diagree .. Ich vermute, sie dont want, etwas anderes zu denen auch doesnt hören diese Art von Kommentaren wird höchste bekommen ", stimmt" "Hass Kongress ist toi Agenten bezahlt" .. yur Punkt ist apt .. v mangelnde Moral ..
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vaidyashivram2 (Pune)
1 hr ago (0.32)
Keine Uhr, hatte es noch nicht dem Zweck diente. Trotzdem bist du da und du bist Frachtbrief die beschädigte Kongress am Zentrum der Zweck überhaupt nicht bedient werden. Wir sind dankbar, dass Anna und sein Team, dass er uns bewusst, dass der Kongress und die beschädigte Minister hatte den Reichtum des Landes in Laks crores Rupien geraubt hat. Der Zweck wird serviert nur, wenn jeder von Hindustanis Sie zieht aus Ihrem Post und begraben die beschädigte Kongress mit allen ihren Führern in Sahara-Wüste sein. Ihr Countdown bereits begonnen mit Khadakwasla und Hisssar Bye Poll. Sie müssen eine Kenntnis nehmen und Wiederherstellung Ihrer IJJAT der letzten zweieinhalb Jahre. Sie werden keine zweite Chance von nun an, das Land wieder zu führen. Anna-Team aur poore desh kaa wada hai aapase!
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Of Attila the Hun and Antilia the Ugliest

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NYT: Is vastu shastra stalling Mukesh Ambani move to Antilia?

Vikas Bajaj, NYT News Service | Oct 19, 2011, 12.42AM IST

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A close family friend confirmed that the Ambani family did not live at Antilia but said members did sleep there "sometimes".

MUMBAI: When the richest man in India completed his extravagant 27-storey house here last year, it incited a public debate along the lines of "What's he trying to prove?"

Now, the chatter involves a different question: Why hasn't he moved in?

The owner, Mukesh Ambani, and his spokesman have declined to discuss the matter, leaving plenty of room for theories. One popular explanation is that despite the time and money lavished upon it, the building does not conform to the ancient Indian architectural doctrine known as vastu shastra.

Certainly the home-which is called Antilia and reportedly has three helipads, six floors of parking and floating gardens-looks lived in.

At night, the cantilevered tower is lit up bottom to top, inside and out. Yet, friends of the family say that after the last canapes have been served and the guests have bidden goodbye, the Ambanis often decamp to Sea Wind. That is the more modest, 14-storey tower that Ambani, his wife, Nita, and three children share with his mother and his estranged younger brother, Anil, and Anil's family.

When does Mukesh Ambani plan to move into Antilia?

"I have asked him the question twice," said a friend who has attended several parties there. He asked not to be identified for fear of ruining his relationship with Ambani, whose net worth Forbes has estimated at $27 billion.

"He said, 'Yes, we'll go next month. Let it be done.' They don't talk about it."

Another close family friend confirmed that the Ambani family did not live at Antilia but said members did sleep there "sometimes". This friend, who also asked not to be identified to avoid offending Ambani, had no explanation.

Tushar Pania, a spokesman for Ambani's company, Reliance Industries, dismissed questions about whether the family was living at Antilia as idle gossip. "It's a private home. There is no reason to discuss it in public," he said. He said the family had moved in, but when asked whether the family still lived at Sea Wind, he revised: "They live in both places."

But why would someone build what is widely considered the world's most expensive private residence and then use it as a pied-a-terre?

Some friends, business associates and Ambani watchers offer the vastu shastra explanation, which gained wider currency earlier this year when DNA, an English-language newspaper in Mumbai, published an article about it citing "sources in the know".

Vastu, a philosophy that is particularly significant in Hindu temple architecture, emphasizes the importance of directional alignments that create spiritual harmony. Many Hindus believe that living in a building not built according to vastu principles brings bad luck.

Basannt R Rasiwasia, a vastu expert whose clients include prominent businessmen and their families-although not Mukesh Ambani-said Antilia appeared to run afoul of one of the key principles of vastu: The building's eastern side does not have enough windows or other openings to let residents receive ample morning light.

"From the outside, what I see is that the eastern side is blocked, while the western side is more open," Rasiwasia. "This always leads to misunderstanding between team members or sometime may create issues. This also indicates more hard work to achieve moderate success. There is more negative energy coming from the western side."

Rasiwasia cautioned that he could not provide a full analysis, as he had not been inside the building, which was designed by the architectural firm Perkins & Will and the interior design firm Hirsch Bedner Associates, both American. Officials from the firms declined to comment, citing confidentiality agreements.

Even before it was built, Antilia was clouded by controversy. Ambani acquired the plot where the tower sits, on Altamount Road, in 2002. He bought it for Rs 215 million, or $4.4 million at the current exchange rate, from a Muslim charitable trust that elsewhere operated an orphanage.

Muslim political leaders and other critics said that the land was sold for only a small fraction of its market value. Ambani acquired the property in an auction, and his spokesman has denied allegations that he paid less than the land's market value.

Last year, as Antilia was nearing completion, many Mumbai residents criticized the building as an ostentatious display of wealth in a country where most people live on less than $2 a day and in a city where more than half the population lives in slums. Many domestic and foreign newspapers-including The New York Times-wrote about those sentiments, which one friend said had upset the Ambanis.

Gyan Prakash, a history professor at Princeton University in New Jersey who wrote the book Mumbai Fables, said the criticism could have influenced the family's decision not to make Antilia its full-time residence. "It is one thing to brashly announce your arrival in the billionaire's club by looking down on the rest of the city from your gated community in the sky," he said via e-mail, "but then you may realize that it is lonely at the top!"

Even if the Ambanis now have reservations about Antilia, the building appears to have some admirers. Eight hundred metres, or a half-mile, away, in the waterfront Breach Candy neighborhood that is home to the US consulate, another rich Mumbai business clan, the Singhania family, is building a tower with cantilevered floors. Many say it resembles Antilia.

The move-in date? Don't ask. Sagar Joshi, a spokesman for Raymond Ltd., the retail company controlled by the Singhanias, declined to answer questions about the building.

©2011 The New York Times News Service
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Ravinder (Jammu)
1 hr ago (08:52 PM)
auction the house and distribute the money amoung poor
4thaugust1932 (Tokyo)
2 hrs ago (07:56 PM)
90% of corrupt money is with the Forward caste. (2011) Black Money in Swiss Banks = $1.4 trillion (FC) Hasan Ali Khan = $8 billion (MC) ISRO-Devas = $300 million (FC) Cash-for-votes = $715,000 (FC) (2010) 2G spectrum scam and Radia Tapes Controversy = $6.9 billion (BC) Adarsh Housing Society (FC) Commonwealth Games = $15.5 billion (FC) LIC Housing loan scam = $200 million (FC) Belekeri port = $12 billion (FC) Lavasa = $80 million (FC) Uttar Pradesh Food Grain = $44 billion (BC) APIIIC = $2 billion (FC) IPL Cricket = $8 billion (FC) (2009) Madhu Koda = $800 million (SC) UIDAI = $1 billion (FC) (2008) Satyam = $1 billion (FC) (2006) Scorpene Deal = $10 million (FC) (2005) Oil-for-food programme (Natwar Singh) = $10 billion (FC) (2004) Gegong Apang PDS = $200 million (ST) (2003) Taj corridor = $44 million (SC) (2002) Kargil Coffin (MC) (2001) Ketan Parekh = $200 million (FC) Barak Missile = $200 million (FC) Calcutta Stock Exchange = $2 million (FC) (1997) Sukh Ram = $5 million (FC) SNC Lavalin = $10 million (FC) Advani Hawala = $18 million (FC) (1996) Bihar fodder = $211 million (BC) C R Bhansali = $200 million (FC) (1995) Telgi scam = $4.46 billion (MC) - (1992) Harshad Mehta = $800 million (FC) (1989) Bofors = $400 million (FC) (1971) Nagarwala = $1 million (FC) Haridas Mundhra = $10 million (FC)
VIPIN (Chennai)
3 hrs ago (07:16 PM)
MUKESH BHAI YOU ARE A TIGER ON PAPER ..YOURS FUTURE DEPENDS UPON AMERICAN POLICY...SHANI IS CHANGING ON 14 NOVEMBER--2011, IT WILL BRING SO MANY CHANGES IN THE WORLD...BE CAREFUL.....yours down fall is certain....ALL YOURS SCAMS WILL COME OUT
Mukesh Bhai (Mumbai)
4 hrs ago (06:05 PM)
The reason I have not moved in is because of the VIEW from my room early in the morning ! Every morning I open the window of my bedroom on the top floor and witness 70% of Mumbai's population Sh!tting in the Open. The sight & Stench is unbearable
Anil Bhai (Mumbai) replies to Mukesh Bhai
3 hrs ago (06:55 PM)
Mukesh Bhai: Could you see them clearly with your binoculars. How did these Mumbai citizens clean up after defecation ? Isn't it that they use a pot of holy water to wash clean with bare hands. Then again, did you also do the same at Antilia 24-carat golden gates. There is a designated spot for you to openly defecate as well. Besides which is a golden tap there too for you to clean up with some brushes. Is that correct ?
Subu (Chibramau) replies to Mukesh Bhai
3 hrs ago (06:54 PM)
Do you mean 'Huggers' Street'?
amol (dehli)
4 hrs ago (06:05 PM)
Vashtu Shashtra,karma, tantra lol..this article is a joke right..These corrupt rich families who have become mega rich in India wont even be feeling guilty by robbing a poor man from his clothes.If their conscious doesnt scare them then not enough sunlight from the east wont even bother them lol. Probably he is just scared of leaving Sea view as his brother may claim the whole property and not leave him a floor or something.
Frankee (Mumbai)
5 hrs ago (05:02 PM)
Corporate greed...They influence the government policies for the people.....Maoist and other violent groups arise out of this kind of social inequality.....32 rupee for a poor....Let us suffer.....Any Hope?
Kefrance (Delhi) replies to Frankee
4 hrs ago (05:20 PM)
Frankee: Rs 24 for the poor. Rs 32 is for the city dwellers. Please get your facts right before you comment. Both these amounts are below USD1, so it means that anyone in India earning USD1 per day is affluent and to be considered rich and wealthy.
Frankee replies to Kefrance
4 hrs ago (06:03 PM)
Let us take the max...not rich and wealthy but sufficient to live a nornal life...
papa (ludhiyana)
5 hrs ago (05:02 PM)
don't take it negatively at least think about the people who will work over there, many people will get the job at lest they are getting befitted. the security of that area would be high that would be beneficial for surrounding people...
Johnson (Chennai)
5 hrs ago (04:54 PM)
That building is a national shame. Have heard from rest of the world that the billionaires has donated their hard earned fortunes to charity for a good cause. But here this family has benefited from the people of the country and in turn has done a filthy thing in returns. With the enormous money they have and doesn't know wat to to do with it have started all useless shops and companies and hitting the poor in their stomach like vegetable vendors and small provisional shopkeepers. Think of Reliance Fresh etc. Do they really need to run this for their daily living?? All useless products and expired products sold with heavy discounts and leaving no space for the poor to survive. When a person is known to the world he should become a role model for others to follow and never should behave cheaply as Ambanis. He's one class of example for what a world known billionaire not supposed to do. Remember money is not all in life to do whatever u want. Will get a heavy blow such that u coudn't even stand up in life.
Rao (Kuwait) replies to Johnson
4 hrs ago (05:29 PM)
If this is the case to Ambani, how about Tajmahal, Park of Mayavati, useless statues of politicians on the middle of the roads, etc. comment please?
Abdullah Karimi (Jeddah) replies to Rao
4 hrs ago (06:12 PM)
Yes Johson is right on their views. Regarding your question Taj is generating money for the nation & park will do so. I will also quote that Ambani would never ever enjoy to live in so called Antilia. For your kind information this tower foundation is on the "wakf-board" land which Ambani trickily purchased by paying sums under the table.
gates (jalandhar)
5 hrs ago (04:53 PM)
we indians always discuss on a stupid topic we do not do anything, or to go against for that there is lot of problem around us but what we do just like on facebook and doing comment and criticizing someone is that enough to remove the corruption. save tiger, save water, save trees, infanticide and n number of evil in our society. if ambani has reached there that is his capability or we can say already build property but is that make any sense to discuss on that so pls yaar do something don't make virtual world here.
Johnson (Chennai) replies to gates
4 hrs ago (05:59 PM)
And Mr. Gates what r u doing here then???
K.V. Krishnamurthy (coimbatore)
5 hrs ago (04:45 PM)
This is problem of riches.But you cannot help it. People who have huge money can only think of such a big project. No doubt it is a grand success .Rather than criticising,atleast think about the people who were employed and benefited for a couple of years during construction..May be after couple of decades this may be a major tourist attraction of Mumbai.
I could build a better house for a million (somewhere in south mumbai )
6 hrs ago (04:14 PM)
ANTILLA is an GROTESQUE MONSTROSITY I have never seen such TACKY WASTE OF MONEY and it costs a billion The Ambanis may havebeen born with moneymaking abilities but they have the tastes of Baboons i
ethan (delhi) replies to I could build a better house for a million
5 hrs ago (05:09 PM)
suppose if u would be the place of ambani what would you do for you for your family for your own happiness just tell the truth....u would not be satisfied with millions Rs worth of house your status your self respect would not allow you to go and live a simple life
Humble India Billionaire (Mumbai) replies to ethan
3 hrs ago (06:27 PM)
ethan: idiot, who say billionaires cannot lead and live a simple life. warren buffet still live in a modest house, so is steve jobs who just died. Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg also live in a small simple house in Palo Alto. These are also billionaires. Only Indians like to show off. So is Mr. Lakshmi Mittal who lives in a Victorian Mansion Palace next to Prince Charles former residence in Kensington Palace. Now Mr. Mallaya of Kingfisher is also topping the list to show off his wealth. So be it.
4thaugust1932 (Tokyo)
6 hrs ago (04:05 PM)
In a traffic jam, you'll get through if you break the traffic rules. In chaos among 1 billion Indians, you can make money only if you break the laws. Ambani/Birla/Tata does the same.
amit_thackrey (Mumbai)
6 hrs ago (04:02 PM)
It would be a world attraction to see the worlds richest house standing to the worlds poorest houses (slums) standing next to each other. The house with lot of toilets for few people standing next to houses with no toilets and people defecating on railway tracks of mumbai standing next to each other. Good material for Slumdog 2 movie.
rajesh k (Pune) replies to amit_thackrey
5 hrs ago (04:49 PM)
ohh raj thackerays son right
ThinkingDimaag (India)
6 hrs ago (03:31 PM)
There is a scientific reason behind Vaastu. Secondly, Vastuu is part of Bachelor Of Architecture[B.Arch.] degree in almost all of the Engineering institutions, as its principles are universal in nature.
Fakiri (India)
6 hrs ago (03:30 PM)
I would not stay in that building for free. What an ugly piece of dinosaur like building. Surely anyone living there will get vertigo and other complications.
G.V.Raghaviah (Brisbane.)
6 hrs ago (03:28 PM)
It would be wiser if the building is sold by auction which will fetch considerable amount to the extent of loss of Market Capitalisation of the Reliance Industries and any other associated Companies so that te Late father would be much satisfied that his eldest son had a wise decision to make up the actual loss in market Capitalisation.The excess amount reailised may be kept as a Reserve to meet the future erosion of Capital which is a natural phenomenon in the present difficult circumstances are any interest bearing loans of the Empire.Till such time a decision is taken how it invest that amount may be kept in Nabard for a period of prescribed lock-in-period.
SK Sharma (Pune)
6 hrs ago (03:28 PM)
This one is for Mr Mukesh Ambani, himself. Hope he reads this or this piece is put up to him by some of his well wishers. I am an earthquake engineer. And for one I know it well enough that most of the high rises in Mumabi & Delhi & Pune etc are definitely not built with the tenets of earthquake engineering. Most (in fact all) structural designers in India just employ a certain factor for catering to the Earthquake forces in a difinitive Zone. But designing for proper resistance to these dynamic forces, buildings have to be designed with earthquake response spectra having been studied. These pencil thin structures are definitely at higher risk in the pressent state of designing. But even more crucial than desining is the proper executive work on the ground. There are at least 14 factors that are to be well known to the engineers on ground while building high rises. With none of the engineers in the market knowing these tenets, they are at a total loss. And with speed of work being demanded by the owners, they find it extremely convenient to overlook them, even if a few of these engineers do possess a little knowledge of these. In such a scary scenario, it is well worth considering for Mr Ambani or any one else to get a proper study by some knowledgeable & well educated practising engineer in the related field so that the safety of the structure is carefully considered, and suitable action taken to retrofit the structure so that it could stand the test of time, IF SO REQUIRED. The condition of filled up soils beneath, especially in the coastal areas, further accentuated those risks. See how they went about it in case of that Sail shaped Hotel in Dubai. Yes! a word about VASTU. It is pure science and now become a fashion for rich & mighty. But whether a building is a two room tenemant in a single storey or a mighty 1000m tall building, the principles are exactly the same. I have not seen the ground at the spot in this case, but, these must been taken into consideration by the Architect concerned, simply becauseVASTU has become the fashion for rich people. I will not accept the same reasoning given by someone for structural designing because Indian subcontinent's geology is undergoing tremendous stresses due to sub-duction, especially the peninsular region. And the Zoning is almost defunct. Take it or leave it. The choice is that of those who live in such high rises. But please do consider this. Thanks.
Khalid (Mumbai)
6 hrs ago (03:27 PM)
The Cantilivered Tower is lit from top to botto .Daily a 27storeys tower littedup and nobody Is staying. Ambanis are exempted from powet Conservation or Since Ambanis own the power Company in Mumbai,he getting free of charge But still its waste of power,why is the Govt Not taking action on it. Everything chalta hai for riches and poor man Has to suffer.
MOHAN (CHENNAI)
7 hrs ago (02:44 PM)
BILLIONNAIRE HOUSE WITH SLUMS AS BOUNDARY.THIS IS INCREDIBLE INDIA. MEGALOMANIA IS DEFINTION FOR THIS BUILDING
fatima (chennai) replies to MOHAN
5 hrs ago (04:19 PM)
The suitable name for this building will be SLUM DOG MILLIONNAIRE'S DEN
Ramesh Sharma (Faridabad)
7 hrs ago (02:27 PM)
In place of critising we should wish good luck to Ambanies and also we should be proud that an Indian has such a beautiful house. I think it is no where less than any other private home in the world. I and my family wish good luck to Mukesh,Tina and their family and also pray that they should enjoy their life in that home. Good luck once again.
geeta (india) replies to Ramesh Sharma
6 hrs ago (04:09 PM)
is tina also moving with mukesh?
ThinkingDimaag (India) replies to Ramesh Sharma
6 hrs ago (03:44 PM)
Am I right in understanding that you wanted to express sarcasm in the phrase "such a beautiful house"? In fact I think that the designers of this house need to be sued for creating most expensive ugly building in the world!
Jeff (Singapore)
7 hrs ago (02:26 PM)
What rubbish, GOD is in Control not things created by him
poor (Slum around Anti-lia)
8 hrs ago (01:32 PM)
Mukesh is another rich educated illlitrate praising Modi for his genocide and now afraid to move into his own house. When will we get rid of false belief.
Iqbal (Qatar)
8 hrs ago (01:19 PM)
My Opinion.The Antilia has been built on a graveyard. Thats the mean reason Ambanies feel themselves guilty ,and fear of ghosts also preventing them to move in,
somesh1946 (visakhapatnam)
9 hrs ago (01:03 PM)
This is a public discussion on a very private matter.Let us respect an individual citizen's privacy.None of us paid a pie for the house and what is our moral authority to discuss about it.
Johnson (Chennai) replies to somesh1946
6 hrs ago (04:04 PM)
Be aware that all ur tax money has gone into this by some means...and thats the reason a stupid useless building had been raised for. If that's the hard earned money they woudn't have done this...
hortense vaughan (AusTRALIA) replies to somesh1946
6 hrs ago (03:28 PM)
You stupid dickhead;people are allowed to have opinions about buildings and to express these opinions;no one needs "moral authority'' to express opinions on the ugliness/beauty of things .
mgkapoor.1962 (Delhi) replies to somesh1946
8 hrs ago (01:49 PM)
Oh hello. They owe it to their shareholders. With majority voting power they pass resolutions proposing filthly high salaries for temselves!
mgkapoor.1962 (Delhi) replies to somesh1946
8 hrs ago (01:45 PM)
Oh hello, What do yoou mean none of us paid any pie? Mukesh did not bring with him at the time he was born. His late father built the empire with shareholders money. In 1977 he had only Rs.15000/-. They owe it to the shareholders of their respective companies.
INDIAN (MIDDLE EAST) replies to mgkapoor.1962
7 hrs ago (02:27 PM)
They (Ambanis) owe mainly to our country than the shareholders. They made all of their riches (billions) from our beloved country. They should share or donate some of their wealth to the welfare of the poor people of our country instead of wasting it for this ugly building.
Madan Gopal Kapoor replies to INDIAN
7 hrs ago (02:52 PM)
I agree with you. If I had written what you wrote I would have been shot down by bloggers saying it was their earning. Hence I chose the word shareholders. Such vulgar display of wealth must be shot down by all and sundry.
Jayanthy Raghavan (Muscat, Oman) replies to Madan Gopal Kapoor
6 hrs ago (04:16 PM)
why r we not having a occupy dalal street in Mumbai? We follow or ape the west for everything Why not this?This can be a good support to anti corruption parade
DR PENDYALA PRADEEP ANAESTHESIOLOGIST (SECUNDERABAD)
9 hrs ago (12:28 PM)
Evidently, the building is an ostentatious display of wealth in a country where most people live on less than Rs 32 a day and in a city where more than half the population lives in slums ! Constant and regular criticism by the media about this super expensive building must have upset the Ambanis stalled their move to Antilla. The $ 2 billion house named 'Antilla' must have been based on Vaastu. Such speculations of Vastu being the "reason" for stalling the move of Mukesh Ambani's to Antilla are baseless !! Dr Pendyala Pradeep, Anaesthesiologist, Secunderabad.
Madan Gopal Kapoor (Delhi) replies to DR PENDYALA PRADEEP ANAESTHESIOLOGIST
8 hrs ago (01:22 PM)
I could not agree with you more. The subject 'Corporate Social Responsibility' perhaps is not taught in big Business Schools the world over. On my asking a friend, currently doing Master's in Corporate Social Responsibilty in UK, as to how he intended to use the qualification, prompt came the reply, "shall seek job in UN". I told my friend why does not he instead use the qualification to start an NGO to awaken the Corporates of their Social responsibilities, the friend had no answer. Government cannot do all. Corporates can do a lot in alleviating the lot of the poor in India; as you very rightly said - majority of people in India do not have two meals a day, have no roof over their head, lacs of them sleep in the open braving chill in winter months and facing death. In such a scenario such mansions are nothing but vulgar display of wealth. Instead of drawing filthly high salaries running into tens of crores a year, instead of building mansions costing billions of dollars, (the news is that Vijay Malaya is building a 4.5 Acres Pant-House in Bangalore on top of three High Rise buildings (Hello what are you trying to show?)), they should help alleviate the sufferings of the poor. I am prepared to start an NGO with like minded persons to work in this direction to bring about Corporate awakening in their Social Responsibility.
Pendyala Pradeep replies to Madan Gopal Kapoor
4 hrs ago (06:12 PM)
Thank you Mr Madan Gopal Kapoor for your great reply and wonderful views. I fully endorse your views. Thank you, once, again !!
harrydeol (antartica) replies to DR PENDYALA PRADEEP ANAESTHESIOLOGIST
9 hrs ago (12:49 PM)
Dont matter how rich an Indian is, he will still be dumb superstitious dikhead. The whole of indian cricket team is superstitious. Indians need to come out of dark ages and face 21st century.
Rajgopal (Bangalore)
9 hrs ago (12:25 PM)
The looks of the building are an eyesore.
Jaynarayan (London)
10 hrs ago (12:11 PM)
Please leave the men alone. He has done far more for this country compared to the authors of the blas blas AND OF COURSE MORE THAN YOUR CORRUPT POLITICIANS WHO ARE SUCKING THE PEOPLES" BLOOD. Charity is voluntary. You cannot compel any body to do that unless he is convinced. You people who have nothing to or SIMPLY YOU CANNOT you just sit back and criticize those who are placing the country on world economic map.
Deepak (Bangalore) replies to Jaynarayan
6 hrs ago (03:29 PM)
Fully Agree. Why are we grudging Mr.Ambani his wealth and his house? He has earned and build the home by hard work and not by seeking any charity. Why can't others make Mr.Ambani a role model and work towards greater personal and economic progress. If we don't agree to his style of business, we can have our own style, but we can't make him a victim for having wealth that has been earned with passion and effort
Pakdeep (Mumbai) replies to Deepak
3 hrs ago (07:18 PM)
Deepak: How can you force people to buy-in to what you think is right and to acknowledge Mukesh Ambani as role model ? Everybody should be given their rights to think freely. Nobody can dictate anyone to do things against their will. Maybe because we live in India, a fake democracy forcing their children to marry someone they have not seen before in their lives prior to taking off the veil on day of marriage and then spend the rest of their lives with that person. Deepak, so this is truly India shining story. Do you agree ?
anoop (bangalore)
10 hrs ago (11:58 AM)
Shortage of quality stories :-) ! ..Mr Vikas bajaj ...time for appraisals ? lol
Badne Kaayi (City Market)
10 hrs ago (11:55 AM)
Why do people beleive in vaastu paastu? too superstitous, if vaastu was an aspect of better living India would not have been langushing as a poor country for centuries. instead of vaastu, eat pasta and live well.
INDIAN (MIDDLE EAST)
10 hrs ago (11:31 AM)
First of all this building doesn't look like a house at all. It looks very ugly and scary!!! This may be a reason why Mukesh Ambani doesn't like to live there!!!
Raju (USA) replies to INDIAN
9 hrs ago (12:33 PM)
Should be converted to a haunted house and used for Haloween...nice source of income for Ambani's
Rajgopal N/A (Bangalore) replies to INDIAN
9 hrs ago (12:31 PM)
Thank God, Mukesh (hopefully) did not execute Reliance this way!
Ankit (Delhi)
11 hrs ago (10:38 AM)
Imaginary Scenario: Well it could be a Deewar sort of thing, where he wants his mother to move in with him, but not younger bro... but anil ke paas Maa Hain" :P
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Trololo (Trolland)
11 hrs ago (10:30 AM)
If my house was shaped like jenga i wouldnt want to live in it either.
VIPIN (delhi)
11 hrs ago (10:27 AM)
YES IF AMBANI WILL MOVE TO HIS NEW HOUSE HE WILL SEE HIS DOWNFALL...HE IS WORRIED...BUT HIS DOWNFALL IS CERTAIN FROM MARCH--2012...FUTURE OF AMBANI LIES IN HANDS OF AMERICAN COMPANIES AND AMERICA ALONE.....change is certain progress is not..SAYS AMERICANS
Venkatram Tangirala (Dubai, UAE)
11 hrs ago (10:24 AM)
To all those who have commented on this issue: Why single out Mukesh Ambani for having spent so lavishly on a house he may have little utility? When we buy a house or apartment, do we spare a thought atleast once that the 50 lakhs or so that we are pouring can buy 50 small houses for 50 poor families in a village? or a small school, or something for the community. No we do not and we buy what we can because we always think that there is someone else who has to do that charity. We take pride in slinging mud at others because that target is not "me". Look into your own self and criticize yourself first for your extravaganzas.
Rana (Jaisalmer) replies to Venkatram Tangirala
9 hrs ago (01:05 PM)
How about introducing family planning, support and information services to the poor so that they understand the economics of having children and reduce their family size? This would be a better way of eradicating poverty. Simply donating houses to the poor in this manner will only lead to further population increase in this already overpopulated country.
Ram (Seattle) replies to Venkatram Tangirala
10 hrs ago (12:00 PM)
Tangirala, you live in Dubai. No wonder working for those dumb Arabs does not provide one any insight on corporate governance & integrity. It is one thing for Ambani to live lavishly and quite another to build a house that costs $1billion plus. Spending Rs.5 million is not the same as spending $1Billion. It raises questions as to whether Reliance success is all due to one Mukesh Ambani? The answer is a loud no. It's dint of hard work from employees, stake holders, customers and the economy in general. One guy to just take advantage of it all in such a blatant manner flies against social responsibility issues. If the guy was resident of French Reviera, may be he could have built a home that is lavish. One living in a poor third world country like India should show bit more of realism. Sure, I live in the west. Does not mean I would live in an ostentatious mansion if I had a few million bucks. I would just live in a comfortable home. Not a lavish mansion.
common man (pune ) replies to Venkatram Tangirala
10 hrs ago (11:37 AM)
Man... decent house in hydrabad pune and mumbai cost is around 50 lakhs. Dont u think it is a right of an individual who has worked hard ad qualified deserve a good decent house in city. You go an do all the charuty looks like u have got lots of dubai money. what Mukest is doing is abnormal what we common people are doing is normal. grow up in life....!!!!! first take care of urself and family memners then start doing charity
Kumar (New Delhi)
12 hrs ago (10:04 AM)
It is not due to vastu. It is due to the construction of Antilla on Waqf land. Hope that they will not get peace of mind there.
jake_ind (Shanghai)
12 hrs ago (09:58 AM)
TOI please grow up! I guess most of us are not interested to know when, Why and how Mukesh Ambani will move to his new house. It's none of our business. Please try to show some important and interesting news on the front page. Cheers!
sijumark (Dubai) replies to jake_ind
11 hrs ago (10:21 AM)
Totally agree. TOI do go the Tabloid way.
Jake (Shanghai)
12 hrs ago (09:54 AM)
TOI please grow up! I guess most of us are not interested to know when, Why and how Mukesh Ambani will move to his new house. It's none of our business. Please try to show some meaningful and important news on the front page. Cheers!
Nandakumar (Chennai) replies to Jake
10 hrs ago (11:49 AM)
But only after you read it fully you have commented, haven't you? don't try to be smart as if you are genuine.I bet 100% of people will be interested in this article someway or other.
jake_ind replies to Nandakumar
9 hrs ago (01:07 PM)
Buddy I dun have enough time read about these time wasting gossips. You seem to be free enough for these kind of stuff. Keep it up! Let's see how many agree to you?
Mum bhai (Mumbai)
12 hrs ago (09:32 AM)
I am vastu expert.When i was learing vastu from my master he said the wealth you make is not important. The important is where you spent and after spent spl on home must be peacefull not giving tension. Yes there must be some other problem with vastu because Vastu can be repaired by breaking or making. I have heard that the land he bought for building this home was not good (haunting land).
Ashok Nair (Kottayam , Kerala)
12 hrs ago (09:31 AM)
Perhaps Mr Ambani should understand that there is a limit to happiness achievable through material means . The irony is that the rich needs to spend more to create a smile on their face ,7000 Cr as with the case of Mr ambani while for a poor man even getting his stomach full could result in a higher quantum of happiness . The key is to make your smile cheaper....
vikram (Houston ) replies to Ashok Nair
10 hrs ago (11:37 AM)
He'nt happy . Still desperate to find a solution for his 7000 Cr 'vasthu mess'
mani (chennai)
12 hrs ago (09:21 AM)
though vaasthu can be corrected normally in any house, i wonder can anyone do correction in this. he should have made with consultations of few vaasthu consultants before executing. it is not too late he can even now call some one and try to make changes. there are many good experts in south. mugesh must have made with complexity on his brother in hurry but still hope that it can be corected. mani
Pendyala Pradeep (Sagar, Madhya Pradesh) replies to mani
11 hrs ago (11:18 AM)
Evidently, the building is an ostentatious display of wealth in a country where most people live on less than Rs 32 a day and in a city where more than half the population lives in slums ! Constant and regular criticism by the media about this super expensive building must have upset the Ambanis stalled their move to Antilla. The $ 2 billion house named 'Antilla' must have been based on Vaastu. Such speculations of Vastu being the "reason" for stalling the move of Mukesh Ambani's to Antilla are baseless !! Dr Pendyala Pradeep, Anaesthesiologist, Secunderabad.
M S Ayyangar (MUMBAI)
13 hrs ago (09:03 AM)
Money provides security to some extent. Later the very person holding the wealth becomes it's security guard. Material wealth has immense limitations - unlike mental and spiritual wealth that liberate the person from all fears and insecurities.
ssj (BC)
13 hrs ago (08:57 AM)
Maybe an ironic parable of much of the wealthy and educated in India who are still held prisoners to their superstitious worldviews.
Pavan (memphis)
13 hrs ago (08:54 AM)
Wheres the house? I just see a Air control Tower... oh! is that the house?
MK (Hyd) replies to Pavan
10 hrs ago (12:01 PM)
ha! ha Ha!
Nandakumar (Chennai) replies to Pavan
10 hrs ago (11:52 AM)
you can't see because your mind is filled with jealous.
pavan replies to Nandakumar
9 hrs ago (12:41 PM)
Rey kongat madrasi, I have better life than any billionaire, Coz I have peace of mind atleast.. Go eat idli sambar and sleep.. Usless fellow..
Animesh (Cuttack) replies to pavan
4 hrs ago (05:32 PM)
Your mind is just filled with hatred bit*h. Your comments reflect it assh0le.
pritha (bombay) replies to Pavan
11 hrs ago (10:39 AM)
yes. even i wonder how can someone make such a bad house. it does not look like a house. it looks as if hay, burnt bricks, dried plants have been stuffed. i cannot even smile when i look at it. i like the other buildings around it.
kristalsoldier (mumbai) replies to Pavan
12 hrs ago (09:51 AM)
Lol! That was funny! Well said!
Subbir (kolkata/mumbai)
13 hrs ago (08:42 AM)
So, Vastu stalled entry to Antilia. I am sorry that are vaastu defects even in 'Sea Wind".
Anonymous (Anonymous)
13 hrs ago (08:30 AM)
I am always happy to hear of Mukesh Ambani and Reliance Industries facing problems. Bunch of chors, led by a maha-chor. I will be surprised if ToI publishes this comment.
ARYAN (MUMBAI)
13 hrs ago (08:21 AM)
THE MONEY IS OF AMBANI AND HIS FATHER Y WE SHOULD BOTHER OF HIS LIFE USKA GHAR HAI JO KARNA HAI KARNA DO Y WE R DISCUSSING THA STUPID ISSUE OF HIS HOUSE WOH GHAR MEI ACHAR DELA KI OFFICE DELA Y WE BOTHER OF HIS HOUSE
Mohsin Ali (India) replies to ARYAN
13 hrs ago (09:06 AM)
Bhai Ghar Uka hai!!! Magar jo paisay say ghar Banaya gaya ek to woh hum aap aur hum jaisay logon ka maal hadap kar banaya. aur doosri bat... Kiya Itna kharcha zaroori hai us desh mai jahan 40% say zayada log gharibi rekha kay neechay rahtay hai. Is Paisay say ek Gaon ya Zilllay ka vikaas ho sakta tha. Deshprem hota to ambani ka ghar ek aam ghar hota aur samaaaj seva kuch khaas hoti. Par aisa nahi hai na!!!!!!
Vicharavadi (Mumbai) replies to Mohsin Ali
10 hrs ago (11:30 AM)
Habe bosudike tume kya Bharat ka teka liya hai kya? Bharat ka gharibi our Mukesh ka Ghar ko kya relation hai? Tumhara pas ka paisa gharibo ko bato. Pukkat ka salaha math dedo
yum reda (cuttack)
14 hrs ago (08:15 AM)
when BHARATIY SAMSKUTI has so many beautiful vaastu names in VEDAS/UPANISHADS/RAMAYAN/MAHABHARAT/PURANAS,and our rich MYTHOLOGY, I simply cannot fathom,WHY MUKESH and NEETAjee have chosen,this ANTI-VAASTU name ,which has ANTI in it ,in the beginning,itself. Is it not ASH UBH AARAMBH ? ANTI- lia.?Dear Mukeshjee,pl.THINK AGAIN.
Munshi (Mumbai)
14 hrs ago (08:14 AM)
The distance between poor and rich is widening in India. Mukesh want to show this through his experience. Antilia is a very good example in that perspective.
Anirud (India)
14 hrs ago (07:57 AM)
That is why we have the term "Old Money." Ambanis are characteristic of the Indian noveau riche marked by naked greed, vulgar ostentation and complete lack of grace. And that is reflected in the building. Serves the fellow right, I say! After spending all the money, he finds Vastu proscribes. Good, turn it into a hotel or service apartments- at least it will provide some jobs.
Zooni (Chandigarh)
14 hrs ago (07:42 AM)
Even if I have billions, I would never stay in such house. What a tasteless building and that height scares me off. If I would have so much money, I rather live in some big farmhouse, with gardens, fields around. I would eat fresh fruits and vegetables, fresh milk. Anyways, I don't expect Mr. Ambani to live in some village but he could have done much better than this. This building looks scary.
Rajgopal (Bangalore) replies to Zooni
9 hrs ago (12:29 PM)
I agree that the building is an eyesore. The rest is a matter of choice, of possibilities. If commerce has to flourish, employment created and entrepreneurial drive is necessary.
Babas and Gurus (Kollam)
14 hrs ago (07:21 AM)
Because of these rich morons, babas and gurus thrive in india.
Bring Corporates under RTI (keral)
15 hrs ago (07:18 AM)
Indians are superstitious. Period.
cnrajan23 (cheyyar)
15 hrs ago (07:14 AM)
A good house is where you can live peacefully and sleep well # A house is not made only by bricks and cement it has more than that # Money can buy a bed not a sleep #
sahani (usa)
15 hrs ago (06:44 AM)
Easy come easy go. Only money earned in right way stays with you .
mubukugrappa (India Slum)
15 hrs ago (06:26 AM)
Moronic extravagance ($1-2 Billion) and idiotic superstition (Vastu): what a combination.
Narayan (Mumbai) replies to mubukugrappa
12 hrs ago (10:18 AM)
Though vastu appears to be superstition, it actually happens to be science with the various directions being better suited to certain activities due to various factors. These factors could be the wind directions, the gravity factor of the earth, the temperatures, the sunlight etc. So, vastushastra as it is called, has a scientific base which has been established long back. Whether to follow it or not is an individuals decision, but definitely it is not a superstition.
Logician (Mumbai) replies to Narayan
10 hrs ago (11:37 AM)
Oh come on, some of it is logical (put door on side where visitors won't get roasted in Sun, etc.) and some of it is silly (put main bedroom facing south west to roast in afternoon sun). All of it is cloaked in mumbo-jumbo to make its semi-literate "experts" plausible to superstitious rascals like Ambani.
Zooni (Chandigarh) replies to mubukugrappa
14 hrs ago (07:46 AM)
Abbe dhinchak, there is nothing superstious about Vastu? There is something called ancient science, in case you don't know and every country has it in world. China has its own, even Greek has its own. So stop insulting Indian science you moron.
endofworld (world) replies to Zooni
12 hrs ago (10:01 AM)
according to vastu, your kitchen should be inside your toilet. do rebuild your house accordingly.
M K (HYd) replies to endofworld
10 hrs ago (12:10 PM)
endofworld (world) 'that is extremely rude, distasteful & disgraceful of you'
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Zooni (Chandigarh) replies to M K
3 hrs ago (06:35 PM)
Thanks MK Bhai. People from Hydro land are always cool. Love Hydrabadis.
george (chennai) replies to Zooni
13 hrs ago (08:49 AM)
there is wisdom in every country and at every time. the wisdom of yesterday need not be the wisdom of today and tomorrow. in the ancient days, as there was no artificial provision for light and ventilation, they had their own methods like east direction... now they are no more wisdom. we need to take only the principles like ventilation and lighting, not the method. akg chennai
Jaynarayan (London) replies to george
10 hrs ago (12:02 PM)
GEORGE WHERE IS THE WISDOM OF GOING TO YOUR CHURCH AND 2000-year OLD CHSTIAN rituals. Many of them look funny, they are practiced by millions throughout the world, amnd may including you. so shut up.
Zooni (Chandigarh) replies to Jaynarayan
3 hrs ago (06:37 PM)
Thanks JayNarayan
R. Albuquerque (Perth)
15 hrs ago (06:24 AM)
How can one live in a huge, expensive montrosity with unimaginable luxuries whlist just across millions live without basic amenities is something that perhaps only Mukesh Ambani may be able to explain because most others cannot.
kavya (Mumbai)
15 hrs ago (06:23 AM)
God acclaim you with wealth being born to rich father you should have done some good karma by doing some random act of kindness to less privilege ppl. Instead of display your wealth through ugly looking building which is not worth watching. You could have made free hospital, old age home or orphanages.
Mahendran Venkatesan (Coimbatore)
16 hrs ago (06:03 AM)
It seems .... Now they want to mix with the common people.........good
Gerard (Toronta)
16 hrs ago (05:57 AM)
Does a four member family require a 27 storey building to live in? Use the parking spaces to build playgrounds, the bedrooms for dormitories, the living rooms for classes, the auditorium as it is and turn Antilla into an orphanage for orphans. Think of how many that would benefit.
T Inamdar (Mumbai) replies to Gerard
10 hrs ago (12:08 PM)
Yes somebody had donated(waqf) the land for an orphanage
aps3000 (Canada)
17 hrs ago (05:03 AM)
I'll never be able to wrap my head around the figure of almost a billion dollars US to build this "worlds ugliest building" !Like many people-the least Ambani could have done was to have built something pleasing to the eyes.A newly constructed indian temple that took 10 years to build,that opened in London recently-at a fractional cost of $16 million pounds-is infinitely beautiful and will remain that way for ages,as compared to the "block house" called "Antilia".There's so many "negative things" you could say but then whats the point ? Its not going to be "undone now". Ironically,Antilia now will become symbol of :power,greed,egocentrism,-and whatever else it can be labelled,for decades to come.
Sunil (Aus)
17 hrs ago (04:53 AM)
This is what they call "man proposes and god disposes". Karlay lakh chaturi, karam ki laykh metea na ray bhai. Mukesh and Co perhaps may never be able to live there, and perhaps this may be best for them!!
rasheed (hyderabad)
17 hrs ago (04:42 AM)
who cares.........
3sxkgrZd (earth)
17 hrs ago (04:40 AM)
Mukesh is living proof of the old adage that "Money cannot buy good taste." At the end of the day he is another milkman like my own, who tries his best to be a big hero in the neighborhood by wearing bright red banian and open shirt.
rajuttl (Noida)
17 hrs ago (04:31 AM)
If Ambanai doen't want the Antilla for vastu reason then I am ready to take it, I don't care whihc side the dor and windows are. As long as windows is flowing and it is free I will take it. Lete me know Ambani where shoukld I send my Rs1 as a token to you.
Mukesh Agarwal (Mumbai) replies to rajuttl
13 hrs ago (09:12 AM)
I don't even want that ugly looking building built in poor taste even if it is offered free! Somebody must tell Mukesh Ambani that a simple and elegant farmhouse with natural garden is million times better than this million dollar building!
damarulal (MD USA)
18 hrs ago (04:09 AM)
Someone who has lived in chawl house, what is he trying to prove? Having wealth in not important; what is important is what is your taste? Certainly Ambanis are not the people of higher taste. Sorry gentlemen!!
Rajibaba (USA)
18 hrs ago (03:26 AM)
Just donate as much as you can like American philanthropist and enjoy your life as much as you can.
Jacob (Chicago)
19 hrs ago (03:09 AM)
The UK based Telegraph points out: Richest man in India may lose 27-storey home. India's richest man faces the prospect of losing the world's most expensive family home after claims that the land it was built on was sold illegally. The Land was originally owned by the Waqf Board, a trust which controls Muslim heritage properties and charitable institutions throughout India.
Sam (DC)
19 hrs ago (03:05 AM)
Seriously, I can't believe this is a news article in such a leading news forum like TOI. This is ridiculous, page 3 article on cover story, are you kidding.......... grow up journalists and please be little responsible
Anand Krishnan (Mumbai, Maharashtra)
20 hrs ago (02:17 AM)
Vastu, Feng shui or anything you try you are going to rot in hell Mr.Ambani. You have spent 7000 crore for that house where juts you your wife and 2 children are going to live ( I am not mentioning your servants here) . Have you ever built a school, orphanage, old aged home or a hospital for the poor? Look at the Christians look at the kind of work they have done. I studied free in a Christian school got best education foundation and got treated free in their hospitals. Why dont rich Hindus do like Christians? It is sheer selfishness - thinking only about themselves and their family. I am ashamed to call myself a Hindu
4thaugust1932 (Tokyo) replies to Anand Krishnan
6 hrs ago (04:04 PM)
In globalization, caste = religion and there is no hinduism.
Yogi (Mumbai) replies to Anand Krishnan
9 hrs ago (12:26 PM)
Abe krishnan....dharti pe bojh!u are not believeable as a human being...let alone a hindu! yeda !! chal phut !!
coco (Mumbai) replies to Anand Krishnan
18 hrs ago (03:28 AM)
what have you done for the poor as a Hindu? besides being ashamed of being a Hindu?
ajay (delhi) replies to Anand Krishnan
19 hrs ago (03:18 AM)
What % of your earning you donate befor asking someoe else to donate. And even if you do, charity is a private matter, till the time he has paid taxes on his income, even if he spends 100 Mln$ or 100 Bln$, others have no right to criticize.
indian (india)
20 hrs ago (01:55 AM)
why the hell is someone's private life anyone's business?
common man (pune ) replies to indian
10 hrs ago (11:41 AM)
Its not provate business ....he has amassed money from u and me through his business.
KMR (Overseas)
20 hrs ago (01:44 AM)
Mukesh totally foolish to build such a building in Mumbai where poverty in slums visible from all directions. He could have built a luxury hotel instead of this building. Or he should have used 25% of the money to build schools and collages for the poor in rural areas probably fetched him goodwill/loyalty of the people for life-time. Spending massively in such proportions just for family's comfort is abominable!!!
Aniruddha D'souza (Vellore) replies to KMR
20 hrs ago (01:59 AM)
Satya-vachan!! mahashay
jay (USA)
20 hrs ago (01:23 AM)
Vikas Bajaj, Nice job copying and pasting from NYT/CNN.
Yaj (London) replies to jay
19 hrs ago (02:19 AM)
Vikas Bajaj is a writer for the New York Times. TOI has correctly acknowledged this right under the article title.
ashish (mumbai)
21 hrs ago (01:17 AM)
the senior ambani was the glaring example as to how much a super corrupt corporate go far. infact he institutionalized corruption between corporate world and top govt. official and politico. i don't hesitate that he opened a pandora box of corruption. this wasted antilla is the living symbol of amalgam of corruption arisen out of nexus between govt. and private sector. Anna should declare it a heritage site for movement against corruption and include private parties under lokpal bill
C Suresh (Charlotte, USA)
21 hrs ago (01:15 AM)
What's wrong in him staying anywhere he want! He has money and he earned it, he wants luxury and can have as it is affordable. Why is this a news?
Pawan (delhi) replies to C Suresh
13 hrs ago (09:16 AM)
Irony of India where millions of children s are malnourished, farmers are dying every years and millions of poor. still there are few ppl who shows there lavish life to there own poor brother and sisters. they are icon of our society who has contributed to india but this kind of act, what example they want to setup.
Mahendra Patel (USA)
21 hrs ago (01:12 AM)
When you become so rich that you cannot enjoy your own wealth then it is time to donate portion of your wealth for good causes. All rich folks in India should learn from Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. Both of them are enjoyning their own wealth and are living happily in their own houses bulit by them and nobody is complaing to them regarding their wealth.
skd (kolkata) replies to Mahendra Patel
13 hrs ago (08:39 AM)
Why not add TATA's name in the list ?
Mahendra Patel replies to skd
1 hr ago (09:10 PM)
I agree. He is also a good example. Thanks
Rut (UK) replies to Mahendra Patel
21 hrs ago (01:17 AM)
Rutesh Nariel-pani
Amlan (TX, USA)
21 hrs ago (01:07 AM)
"Ostentious display of wealth" .... one of the wealthiest men in the world, Warren Buffet, still lives in a modest 5-bedroom house he bought at a younger age, and donated millions of dollars of his wealth to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Perhaps Mukesh Ambani could learn a few lessons from people like these!
Pradnya Koli (Chembur) replies to Amlan
21 hrs ago (01:13 AM)
No, he is a millionare and hence can live in as big a house he wants,,, BUT BUT BUT at-least he should have made a visually pleasing building that would inspire the city with beautiful architecture, rather than having people laugh or turn their heads in disgust. I wonder how this guy approved when his architects and civil engineers showed him the design models before building this monstrosity.
Amlan replies to Pradnya Koli
19 hrs ago (02:48 AM)
The only thing that comes to my mind when I see this building's architecture is Howard Roark from Ayn Rand's "The Fountainhead". Maybe the design is too radical for us to appreciate ...
Binny (Guna) replies to Amlan
19 hrs ago (03:18 AM)
Fugly as seen by eyes. Undeniable. Sorry cant appreciate visual fugliness.
Nisarg Munnwar (Mulund)
21 hrs ago (01:07 AM)
Seriously guys, IMHO Antilla is the most fugliest building in the world.
Northernlight (Europe) replies to Nisarg Munnwar
20 hrs ago (01:27 AM)
No Nisarg, totally disagree with you. It is one of the most beautiful buldings you will will see in India. Architectural marvel, we need to admire the beauty of it, the normative questions aside. I do not approve of such ostentatious display of wealth myself, but the building is really really nice.
Mala (Jogeshwari) replies to Northernlight
20 hrs ago (02:01 AM)
The building doesn't have symmetry, the essence of beauty. Looks like stack/pile of various sized books and boxes.
dsouzaaes (Belgaum)
21 hrs ago (01:00 AM)
Penny wise, pound foolish?
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My dear Mukesh, Oops, "mukes,"

kem chho?

My, my, aren't your media mustlemen, Oops, hired guns, Oops, PR people doing a good job or what? TOI must be angry at you. Usually they are business friendly, especially of your "nanabhai, gandabhai Anil. When the sky was falling over G2 corruption/payouts, TOI kept Anil's good name out of print. Money may not buy Anil love (of Mukesh) but lots and lots of that useless commodity, surely can buy some peace of mind.

Not that I care whether you live in a bamboo, tarpaulin, plastic sheet hut or the most ugly tower of stupidity, costing you some Rs 100,00,000,00 (one hundred crore). To each his own. Mahatma Gandhi lived in his Wardha and Sabarmati Ashrams, with thatched walls and in the most elegant mansions belonging to late Aga Khan and G D Birla. He was happy, nevertheless.

Lot is said about this house. For Indians, it is the most costly. According to my calculations, it is not. The honor goes to: $135,000,000 house. The second place property fetches $100,000,000. At the current exchange rates, the first property is worth Rs 6,615,000,000 and the second one at $4,900,000,000.

Eat your heart out. Not literally, you stupid, figuratively.

...and I am Sid Harth@sidileak.com

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Along Australia's Gold Coast and across the French Riviera, they sit above the beach offering extraordinary views of the sea. In the U.K. they are palaces that humble the Queen's Belgravia mansions.

Others range from landed estates throughout continental Europe to nature preserves in Zambia.

These are some of the world's most expensive properties, and the prices are as unique as the homes. Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan's Aspen ski lodge lists for $135 million, while 6,000 miles away, a 64-room Istanbul waterfront mansion asks $100 million.

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"You're definitely talking about the highest end of the market here," says Joshua Saslove of Joshua & Co., an Aspen, Colo.-based affiliate of Christie's Great Estates. "The net worth of the buyers and the sellers is such that they can do whatever they want."

Feeling a little less flush? A modest $18 million will get you South Africa's priciest pad. But you'd better act quick; with international real estate company Knight Frank calling the country one of the quickest growing real estate markets, that affordability could soon change.

For something a little more "Old World," a Romanian castle, built in 1212 and once home to Vlad the Impaler (the inspiration for Count Dracula), can be had for $140 million.

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Whether they're plunking down $20 million or close to $200 million, in Hong Kong, New York or Rio de Janeiro, potential buyers are generally cut from the same cloth.

They are wealthy globetrotters looking for a second, third or fourth home, and don't mind gassing up the jet if it means owning a beautiful property. Americans, Arabs and Europeans have long bought getaways across the globe, but increasingly the rising wealth in China, India and Russia is raising the world's luxury watermark.

And while no one besides Indian steel tycoon Lakshmi Mittal has ever shelled out more than $100 million for a home (he did so in 2005, when he snapped up a Kensington townhouse for $127 million ), there are plenty available.

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Though it hasn't yet been built, Tim Blixseth is asking $155 million for his planned Montana lodge. He says that several members of the Forbes 400 have already expressed interest in what will be a 53,000-square-foot stone-and-wood mansion in the billionaire's members-only Yellowstone Club.

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For the third consecutive year, Forbes.com compiled lists of the world's most valuable properties on the market in every continent, excluding Antarctica. We scoured international real estate listings and spoke to top brokers around the world, restricting our list to homes and apartments, not including apartment buildings or plots of land. We allowed for some commercial properties such as ranches or vineyards, but only if the property also featured a residence worthy of the list.

Still, discovering every top-tier property is impossible. Many owners sell their homes only to preselected buyers, and hide their asking and sales prices. This can help owners conceal the value of a home for tax purposes, and keeps fellow aristocrats from regarding them as gauche for announcing a $100 million property to the world.

In France, for example, this year's highest listing is $65 million for an elegant Cote d'Azur gem perched above the port of Saint Jean, with views of Beaulieu and Monaco.

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Five monuments steeped in history and classified by UNESCO as World Heritage Sites which you shouldn’t miss when visiting Portugal.

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Mosteiro dos Jerónimos: a monumental prayer

 

Mosteiro dos Jerónimos. Photograph: IGESPAR/Luís Pavão

“To be great, be whole: don’t exaggerate/Or leave out any part of you./Be complete in each thing./Put all you are into the least of your acts./So too in each lake, with its lofty life, the whole moon shines”. Despite having been written less than 100 years ago, this poem illustrates well what the Portuguese nation was like in 1500, when living through its golden era – the Age of Discoveries – and it ventured out across the oceans to the four corners of the world. Written by Ricardo Reis, one of Fernando Pessoa’s heteronyms, these words are inscribed on the author’s tomb in Lisbon’s Mosteiro dos Jerónimos.

This monument started out as a small and simple chapel, where seamen used to pray upon their departure and their return from their travels. But fate, and history, would change it into something of a different order altogether. After Vasco da Gama’s successful voyage to India in 1498, King Manuel I had it transformed into a huge monument dedicated to Our Lady of Belém.
 So, over 300m in length, the Hieronymites Monastery is now the living memory of all those who made the Portuguese Discoveries around the world possible.

 

Torre de Belém: To protect and incarcerate

 

Torre de Belém. Photograph: IGESPAR/Luís Pavão

A rhinoceros? When you start appreciating in detail the façade of the Tower of Belém, this might be your first interrogation. If it is true that the monument was built in the 15th century, in the Tagus River, in order to protect Lisbon, it is also true that at that time the Portuguese were already citizens of the world.
History tells us that in 1514 King Modofar, who ruled over Diu in India, denied the request made by Afonso de Albuquerque, the governor of Portuguese India, to build a fortress in his territory. However, after the king’s allegiance had been won over with lavish gifts, the Portuguese was presented with a rhinoceros. Afonso de Albuquerque decided to have it sent to King Manuel I back in Portugal. The animal’s arrival in Lisbon became a renowned affair, arising not only the curiosity of the Portuguese but also of other European nations. This was the first living rhinoceros to have been seen in Europe since the 3rd century, and its figure was eventually carved into the base of one of the Tower’s turrets.
The monument, built from lioz limestone, is composed of a bastion and the tower itself.
Yet, apart from its strategic and defensive value, the Tower had also another use. During the Iberian Union, when the Portuguese Crown was under Spanish rule, between 1580 and 1640, it was also used as a political prison.

 

Mosteiro da Batalha: In recognition of a victorious battle

 

Mosteiro da Batalha. Photograph: IGESPAR/Luís Pavão

This is yet another impressive monument that took over 150 years to build, to thank the Virgin Mary for Portugal’s victory in the famous Battle of Aljubarrota against Castile, in 1385, that secured the country’s independence. The profusely ornate Monastery of Batalha is a vast building that comprises a church in the shape of a Latin cross, with three naves and five apsidal chapels, as well as the abbey’s rooms, bedrooms, cloisters and what became known as the Unfinished Chapels, because they remain unfinished to this day. There are also spaces to store food, a library, a registry, and a pharmacy or infirmary. 
The monks who lived here welcomed foreigners, within their means, who were mainly wealthy British people. A slightly different case was that of Irishman James Murphy: born into a humble family, he became a talented architect, painter and draughtsman. In 1789 he lived in the monastery for thirteen weeks, in order to measure and draw it. His work, “Plans, Elevations, Sections and Views of the Church of Batalha” was published in instalments and became renowned for its accuracy among an interested public.

 

Convento de Cristo: The order that would conquer the World

 

Convento de Cristo. Photograph: IGESPAR/Luís Pavão

It is possible you might not have heard of Gualdim Pais. In fact he died back in 1195. He served King Afonso Henriques in several battles, but that is not all. He also travelled to the Near East to fight in the Holy Land, in the siege of Gaza, in 1153, and upon his return was named Grand Master of the Knights Templar in Portugal. Seven years later he was financing and overseeing the construction of the order’s new headquarters in the kingdom: the imposing Castle and Convent of the Knights Templar of Tomar. A setting that blends mystery and reality, its grandiosity still weighs over the city of Tomar, which grew from inside its walls. It imposing presence can be viewed from the entire surrounding area. When the order was suppressed in the rest of Europe, it was converted into the Order of the Knights of Christ in Portugal and would become pivotal for Prince Henry the Navigator in providing support for his voyages of exploration in Africa and the Atlantic. Appointed as governor of the order, he would open Portugal to the world under the banner of the order’s cross. But if this mystical place was where the strategy to open up the world’s oceanic trading routes was devised, and where King Manuel I masterminded his imperial design over the World it was also, with King John III, a place of closure and prayer.
Its inherent symbolism was so vast that King Phillip II of Spain chose it to signal the takeover of Portugal. Covering an area of some 45 hectares, it is worth to have a good look at the entire monument, while imagining the daily routine of so many centuries ago.

 

Mosteiro de Alcobaça: Ora et Labora

 

Mosteiro de Alcobaça. Photograph: IGESPAR/Henrique Ruas

Ora et Labora, in Latin, or Pray and Work, in English. This is the fundamental rule that guided the Order of Cistercians, founded in France in 1098. The order would become economically self-sustaining and would ensure all its religious services, so the its prelates were eventually sent all over Europe in search of good places to build new abbeys. But if you thought they were searching for places of affluence and wealth, you are mistaken. Their quest was rather for secluded valleys, with arable land and rivers that provided water. They often chose forests that would help protect their privacy and keep the world at bay. 
During the Middle Ages there were 754 Cistercian abbeys in Europe and the Alcobaça Monastery was to become one of them. 
The monument is intrinsically connected with Portugal’s independence. History tells us that King Afonso Henriques gave Bernard of Clairvaux 44,000 hectares of land to build a Cistercian abbey to commemorate his victory in the Battle of Santarém against the Moors. But there were also political issues behind this gift, because Bernard was a prominent figure 12th century Europe and this helped promote the recognition of Portugal as an independent nation.
The monk’s work would also have a lasting influential effect on Portuguese culture. The impressive monument is comprised of a church, many internal divisions like the Chapter House, a dormitory, a refectory, a cloister, a library and a palace. With the extinction of religious orders in the 19th century, the monastery served a wide range of purposes such as housing a prison, a courthouse, a municipal library, a school, and even a bank.


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Antilia (building)

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Antilia

Antilia as seen from Altamont Road
General information
Status Completed[1]
Type Residential
Location Altamont Road, South Mumbai
Coordinates
 18°58′6″N 72°48′35″ECoordinates: 18°58′6″N 72°48′35″E
Construction started 2007
Completed 2010
Opening 28 Oct 2010
Cost 2 Billion Dollars
Height
Roof 173 metres (568 ft)[2]
Technical details
Floor count 27 (equivalent to 60 floors tower)[3]
Design and construction
Owner Mukesh Ambani
Main contractor Leighton Holdings
Architect Perkins & Will
Structural engineer Sterling Engineering Consultancy Pvt. Ltd.

Antilia is the name of a twenty-seven floor personal home in South Mumbai belonging to businessman Mukesh Ambani, the billionaire Chairman of Reliance Industries.[4] There will be 600 full-time staff to maintain the residence, which was reported in the Indian Media to be the most expensive home in the world.[5] It has been described as the "Taj Mahal of 21st century India".[6][7]

The home will house Ambani, wife Nita, their three children and Ambani's mother.[8]

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[edit] Name and Location

Antilia is named after the mythical island in the Atlantic, Antillia.

The Antilia building is situated on a 4,532 square metres (48,780 sq ft) plot at Altamont Road, Cumballa Hill, South Mumbai, where land prices are upward of US$10,000 per square metre.[9][10]

In August 2008, Altamont Road was the 10th most expensive street in the world at US$25,000/sq m[11] (US$2,336 per sq foot)[12]

[edit] Specifications

The structure was designed by U.S. architects using principles of Vaastu Shastra, the Hindu traditional geomancy from which Chinese feng shui originated, to maximize "positive energy." No two floor plans are alike, and the materials used in each level vary widely.[8]

The home will include:

  • 400,000 square feet (37,000 m2) of living space.[8]
  • Parking space for 168 cars.[8]
  • A one-floor vehicle maintenance facility.
  • 9 elevators in the lobby.[5]
  • 1 helipad and an air traffic control facility.[13]
  • Health spa, yoga studio, small theatre with a seating capacity for 50 on the eighth floor,[14] multiple swimming pools, three floors of hanging gardens, and a ballroom.[8]
  • An ice room infused with man-made snow flurries.[8]

[edit] Construction

Antilia was designed by Chicago based architects, Perkins & Will. The Melbourne-based construction company Leighton Holdings began constructing it[15][who?]. The home was also designed to survive an 8-richter scale earthquake.[16]

[edit] Controversies

Various construction controversies have been connected to the home.

In 2002 Mukesh purchased the property.[17]

In 2007 the Maharashtra government said the structure is illegal because the land's owner, the Waqf Board, had no right to sell it.[5] Mukesh then obtained a No Objection Certificate from the Waqf Board for Rs 1.6 million (U$36,100) and began construction.[5] In June 2011, the Union Government asked the Maharashtra Government to consider referring the matter to the Central Bureau of Investigation.[18]

In regards to the three helipads, the Indian Navy said it will not allow the construction of helipads on Mumbai buildings, while The Environment Ministry said the helipads violate local noise laws.[5]

[edit] Cost and valuation

Indian media frequently reported that Antilia is the world's most expensive home costing US$1 billion.[12][19][20]

Thomas Johnson, director of marketing at architecture firm Will and Hirsch Bedner Associates that was consulted with by Reliance during building floor plan design, was cited by Forbes Magazine as estimating the cost of the residence at nearly $2 billion.[21]

In June 2008, a Reliance spokesman told the New York Times that it will cost $50–$70 million to build.[22]

Upon completion in 2010, media reports again speculated that, due to increasing land prices in the area, the tower may now be worth as much as US$1 billion.[23][24][25]

[edit] Public reception

Antilia, Mumbai

“ It's a stupendous show of wealth, it's kind of positioning business tycoons as the new maharajah of India. ”
 
— Hamish McDonald, author of Ambani & Sons: A History of the Business [8]

Tata Group chairman Ratan Tata has described Antilla , as an example of rich Indians' lack of empathy for the poor[26]. Tata also said: "The person who lives in there should be concerned about what he sees around him and [asking] can he make a difference. If he is not, then it's sad because this country needs people to allocate some of their enormous wealth to finding ways of mitigating the hardship that people have."

Some Indians are proud of the "ostentatious house," while others see it as "shameful in a nation where many children go hungry."[8] Dipankar Gupta, a sociologist at New Delhi's Jawaharlal Nehru University, opined that "such wealth can be inconceivable" not only in Mumbai, "home to some of Asia's worst slums," but also in a nation with 42 percent of the world's underweight children younger than five.[8] Recently Ratan Tata said that "It's sad Mukesh Ambani lives in such opulence".

 

[edit] References

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  2. ^ Emporis GmbH. "Residence Antilia, Mumbai, India". Emporis.com. Retrieved 2010-07-29.
  3. ^ "Personal Green Skyscrapers - The 60 Story Antilia House (GALLERY)". Trendhunter.com. Retrieved 2010-07-29.
  4. ^ "A peek into Mukesh Ambani's $2 hundred million Mumbai home". Rediff.com. Retrieved 2010-07-29.
  5. ^ a b c d e Headlines Today Bureau. "Mukesh Ambani all set to move into world's costliest house: India : India Today". Indiatoday.intoday.in. Retrieved 2010-10-14.[dead link]
  6. ^ "BBC News - India's Ambani hosts party for 'world's priciest home'". Bbc.co.uk. 2010-11-27. Retrieved 2010-11-27.
  7. ^ Shobhaa De, Nov 27, 2010, 01.41am IST. "New Ambani home opens doors, and how - The Times of India". Timesofindia.indiatimes.com. Retrieved 2010-11-27.
  8. ^ a b c d e f g h i Mumbai Billionaire's Home Boasts 27 Floors, Ocean and Slum Views by Mark Magnier, Los Angeles Times, October 24, 2010
  9. ^ "Inside The World's First Billion-Dollar Home". Forbes. 2008-04-30. Retrieved 2010-08-25.
  10. ^ Woolsey, Matt (2008-05-01). "A peek into Mukesh Ambani's $2 bn Mumbai home". New York, NY: ReDiff via Forbes. Retrieved 2009-08-07.
  11. ^ Frank, Robert (2008-08-05). "The 10 Most Expensive Streets in the World - The Wealth Report - WSJ". Blogs.wsj.com. Retrieved 2010-11-17.
  12. ^ a b "Mittal's address more expensive than Ambani's - Money - DNA". Dnaindia.com. 2008-08-04. Retrieved 2010-11-17.
  13. ^ "Mukesh Ambani’s new house – Antilla". aavaas. Retrieved 2010-07-29.
  14. ^ "Antilia the classiest residence for the richest Indian". Luxurylaunches.com. 2007-05-30. Retrieved 2010-07-29.
  15. ^ "Oh brother, spare me the time - World". smh.com.au. 2008-08-02. Retrieved 2010-10-13.
  16. ^ Kwek, Glenda (2010-10-15). "India's richest man builds first $1-billion home, Antilia, Ambani". Melbourne: Theage.com.au. Retrieved 2010-10-28.
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  19. ^ "Indian industrialist to build US$1 billion “home” amidst Mumbai’s multimillion slum-dwellers". Asian Tribune. 2007-06-07. Retrieved 2010-11-17.
  20. ^ "Mukesh Ambani's new abode worth billion - Business News - IBNLive". Ibnlive.in.com. 2010-02-03. Retrieved 2010-11-17.
  21. ^ "Inside The World's First Billion-Dollar Home". Forbes.com. 2008-04-30. Retrieved 2010-11-17.
  22. ^ Giridharadas, Anand (2008-06-15). "Indian to the Core, and an Oligarch". The New York Times.
  23. ^ "Man Builds Himself a Billion Dollar Home". Mumbai, India: ABC News. 2008-01-29. Retrieved 2009-08-07.
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  25. ^ Chandrashekhar. "Mukesh Ambani Mansion In The Sky". Mumbai, India: Oneindia.in. Retrieved 2009-08-07.
  26. ^ "'Antilla', Mukesh Ambani's house, shows lack of empathy for poor: Ratan Tata". The Times Of India. 22 May 2011. Retrieved 30 May 2011.

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    T N Ninan:Righteous rage indeedT N Ninan / New Delhi October 15, 2011, 0:20 ISTLooking back at the recent poverty debate, it is clear that this was another case of Left-leaning commentators venting their spleen without reason

    The poverty debate that flared up three weeks ago is dying down. Looking back, it is clear that this was another case of Left-leaning commentators venting their spleen without reason. Because, at the widely-mocked expenditure level of Rs 32 per day in the cities and Rs 26 in the villages, the official Indian poverty line is comparable to that used by the United Nations (UN) for its Millennium Development Goals (MDG). The MDG poverty line is $1.25 per day. At the current exchange rate, adjusted to get purchasing power parity, that works out to about Rs 29, for both village and city in India — not very different from what the Planning Commission told the Supreme Court. So should the UN’s assumptions and targets, accepted around the world, be hooted out of court too?

    Second, the prescribed wage under the rural employment guarantee programme matches the poverty line for a five-member family: Rs 130 in the villages. The National Advisory Council (NAC) wants it to be more; can’t afford it, says the government. So why doesn’t the redoubtable Aruna Roy, who is a member of the NAC, ask Manmohan Singh if he can live on that wage, in the manner that she posed the question to Montek Singh Ahluwalia? If she doesn’t ask the prime minister, because it would be rude and irrelevant, why wasn’t it rude and irrelevant when posed to Mr Ahluwalia?The late Suresh Tendulkar’s calculation method actually increased the number declared officially to be poor, from 27.5 per cent of the population to 37.2 per cent (for 2004-05). Likewise, another committee in 1993 had changed the method of measuring poverty, and thereby raised even more sharply the number below the poverty line for 1987-88, from 29.9 per cent to 46.3 per cent. If the charge is that government economists have been fiddling with poverty numbers to bring them down, someone should point out that the “fiddling” has raised the poverty numbers, not once but twice in the last two decades.

    The professional naysayers argue that Indian poverty levels have not declined at all, indeed that they are higher now than in 1983 — when the country’s per capita income was less than a third of what it is today. They also say that the hunger situation now is worse than during the Bengal famine of 1943! And they keep repeating the mythology that 77 per cent of the population lived on less than Rs 20 per day in 2004-05. If we take their numbers as given, a poverty line set slightly above Rs 20 per day, adjusted for inflation up to 2011, would be about Rs 35 per day. And such a poverty line would cover about 80 per cent of the population — all of whom would then get the benefit of the government’s anti-poverty programmes. Trouble is that no country in the world has a poverty alleviation and income transfer programme that covers 80 per cent of its population, because it would simply bankrupt the treasury.

    The truth is that these exaggerated poverty numbers simply cannot be a reflection of the reality. If indeed 80 per cent of the people live at various levels below Rs 35 per day today, their annual consumption expenditure would be Rs 10,00,000 crore or Rs 11,00,000 crore. With total private consumption estimated at about Rs 50,00,000 crore, this gives the remaining 20 per cent of the population a level of spending that is nearly four times as much as that of the bottom 80 per cent. The truth, however, is nowhere near as horrific: the richest 20 per cent consume less than the bottom 80 per cent, not four times more. But who wants inconvenient facts when righteous rage is so much easier?

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    My dear Ninan,

    It was an amazing act on your part. Pulling out a rabbit from your top hat. For village idiots and little primary school kids, perhaps. I don’t belong to neither of those two groups.

    Bombastic headline ain’t a good sign of scholarly argument. Is it, T N Ninan?

    You make one argument. Statistics lie. I agree. That strange animal, since its inception, has been used as a weapon. Mostly by the politicians and armchair political pundits. I guess, you belong to the latter category. Otherwise I would have put you somewhere in between Rahul Gandhi and a perennial prime minister, former darling icon of BJP, L K Advani.

    There is no crime in theorizing. None at all. However your pitiable and putrid commentary over a basic argument whether a poverty line can use a certain, well define monetary number. Like all the statistics, give and take a few it is a ball park range. Not a holy,respected word of God.

    Your quoting statistics of your own choosing, as against that of Montek Singh Ahluwalia’s really killed your, “Righteous rage indeed.”

    The ground rules for any debate is not to denigrate the rules of the game. If you ever play a very famous board game of Monopoly, you would either be a very rich person or a sad person locked behind bars in a debtor’s prison.

    I see you behind bars, not at a country club, sipping Martinis, smoking Havana, hand rolled cigars, wheeling and dealing with your chums and making hay while sun shines.

    Get a life.

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टी.एन. नैनन: धर्मी रोष indeedT एन निनान / नई दिल्ली October 15, 2011 00:20 हाल ही में गरीबी बहस में वापस ISTLooking, यह स्पष्ट है कि इस वामपंथी झुकाव टिप्पणीकारों निकाल का एक और मामला बिना कारण उनकी प्लीहा

गरीबी बहस है कि तीन हफ्ते पहले flared नीचे मर रहा है. पीछे मुड़कर देखें, यह स्पष्ट है कि यह वामपंथी झुकाव टिप्पणीकारों निकाल के एक मामले में बिना कारण उनकी प्लीहा था. क्योंकि, व्यापक रूप से 32 रुपये प्रति दिन का मज़ाक उड़ाया और शहरों में 26 रुपये गांवों में व्यय स्तर पर आधिकारिक भारतीय गरीबी रेखा अपने सहस्राब्दि विकास लक्ष्यों (एमडीजी) के लिए संयुक्त राष्ट्र (यूएन) के द्वारा प्रयोग किया जाता है कि करने के लिए तुलनीय है. एमडीजी गरीबी रेखा प्रति दिन $ 1.25 है. योजना आयोग ने सुप्रीम कोर्ट को बताया से बहुत अलग नहीं है - मौजूदा विनिमय दर पर, शक्ति समता है, कि 29 रुपये, दोनों और भारत में गांव और शहर के लिए के बारे में बाहर काम करता है क्रय मिल समायोजित. तो संयुक्त राष्ट्र की मान्यताओं और लक्ष्य दुनिया भर में स्वीकार किए जाते हैं, अदालत के बाहर किया जाना चाहिए भी hooted?

गांवों में 130 रुपये: दूसरा, ग्रामीण रोजगार गारंटी कार्यक्रम के तहत निर्धारित मजदूरी एक पांच सदस्यीय परिवार के लिए गरीबी रेखा से मेल खाता है. राष्ट्रीय सलाहकार परिषद (एनएसी) इसे और अधिक हो सकता है चाहता है, इसे बर्दाश्त नहीं कर सकते, सरकार कहते हैं. तो महापराक्रमी अरुणा रॉय, जो एनएसी के एक सदस्य है, क्यों मनमोहन सिंह पूछना नहीं है अगर वह है कि मजदूरी पर रह सकते हैं तरीके में है कि वह मोंटेक सिंह अहलूवालिया के सवाल समक्ष रखी है? यदि वह प्रधानमंत्री नहीं पूछते, क्योंकि यह अशिष्ट और अप्रासंगिक हो जाएगा, इसलिए यह नहीं था अशिष्ट और अप्रासंगिक जब श्री अहलूवालिया के समक्ष देर सुरेश तेंदुलकर की गणना पद्धति है? वास्तव में वृद्धि हुई संख्या आधिकारिक तौर पर घोषित करने के लिए गरीब 27.5 से, प्रतिशत जनसंख्या का 37.2 प्रतिशत (2004-05) के लिए. इसी तरह, 1993 में एक और समिति गरीबी मापने की विधि बदल गया था, और जिससे भी अधिक तेजी से 1987-88 के लिए गरीबी रेखा से नीचे संख्या उठाया प्रतिशत 29.9 से 46.3 फीसदी. यदि आरोप है कि सरकार अर्थशास्त्री गरीबी संख्या के साथ नगण्य किया गया है उन्हें नीचे लाने, किसी का कहना है कि "नगण्य" गरीबी संख्या उठाया गया है, एक बार नहीं बल्कि पिछले दो दशकों में दो बार होना चाहिए.

पेशेवर वालों का तर्क है कि भारतीय गरीबी के स्तर सब पर अस्वीकृत नहीं है, वास्तव में है कि वे अधिक से अधिक 1983 में अब कर रहे हैं - जब देश की प्रति व्यक्ति आय क्या यह आज है की एक तिहाई से भी कम था. उन्होंने यह भी कहना है कि भूख स्थिति अब 1943 के बंगाल के अकाल के दौरान से भी बदतर है! और वे पौराणिक कथाओं है कि 77 फीसदी आबादी का 2004-05 में प्रति दिन 20 रुपये से कम पर रहते थे दोहराते रहते हैं. यदि हम उनकी संख्या के रूप में दी ले, गरीबी रेखा से 20 रुपए के ऊपर थोड़ा प्रति दिन, सेट 2011 तक मुद्रास्फीति के लिए समायोजित, 35 रुपये प्रति दिन के बारे में होगा. और इस तरह के एक गरीबी रेखा के बारे में 80 प्रतिशत जनसंख्या को कवर किया जाएगा है - सभी जिनमें से तो सरकार के गरीबी विरोधी कार्यक्रमों का लाभ मिलेगा. दिक्कत यह है कि दुनिया में कोई देश गरीबी उन्मूलन और आय हस्तांतरण प्रोग्राम है कि इसकी जनसंख्या का प्रतिशत 80 को शामिल किया गया है, क्योंकि यह सिर्फ राजकोष दिवालिया होगा.

सच तो यह है कि इन अतिरंजित गरीबी संख्या सिर्फ वास्तविकता का एक प्रतिबिंब नहीं किया जा सकता है. यदि वास्तव में 80 फीसदी लोग आज विभिन्न स्तरों पर प्रति दिन 35 रुपए से नीचे रहते हैं, उनके वार्षिक उपभोग व्यय 10,00,000 करोड़ रुपये या 11,00,000 करोड़ रुपये होगा. कुल निजी बारे में 50,00,000 करोड़ रुपये पर अनुमानित खपत के साथ, इस शेष आबादी का 20 फीसदी खर्च का एक स्तर है कि के रूप में लगभग चार गुना फीसदी नीचे 80 के रूप में ज्यादा है देता है. सच है, तथापि, कहीं भयावह रूप निकट है: सबसे अमीर 20 प्रतिशत फीसदी नीचे 80 से कम खपत चार गुना अधिक नहीं है. लेकिन जो असुविधाजनक तथ्यों जब धर्मी रोष इतना आसान है करना चाहता है?

अपनी टिप्पणी के लिए धन्यवाद! हम इसे प्रकाशित करेंगे स्क्रीनिंग के बाद

मेरी प्रिय निनान,

यह अपने हिस्से पर एक अद्भुत कार्य किया गया था. अपने शीर्ष टोपी से बाहर एक खरगोश पुलिंग. गांव बेवकूफ और थोड़ा प्राथमिक स्कूल के बच्चों, शायद. मैं न तो उन दो समूहों के लिए संबंधित नहीं हूँ.

आडंबरपूर्ण विद्वानों के तर्क के शीर्षक ain'ta अच्छा संकेत है. यह, टी एन नैनन?

तुम एक तर्क बनाते हैं. सांख्यिकी झूठ. मैं सहमत हूँ. वह अजीब जानवर, अपनी स्थापना के बाद से, एक हथियार के रूप में इस्तेमाल किया गया है. ज्यादातर राजनेताओं और कुर्सी राजनीतिक पंडितों के द्वारा. मुझे लगता है, आप बाद श्रेणी में हैं. वरना मैं तुम डाल होगा राहुल गांधी और एक बारहमासी प्रधानमंत्री, भाजपा के पूर्व प्रिय आइकन, लालकृष्ण आडवाणी के बीच में कहीं.

Theorizing में कोई अपराध है. सब पर कोई नहीं. हालांकि एक बुनियादी तर्क है कि गरीबी रेखा एक निश्चित का उपयोग कर सकते हैं पर अपने दयनीय और सड़ा हुआ कमेंटरी, अच्छी तरह से मौद्रिक संख्या को परिभाषित. सभी आँकड़ों की तरह देते हैं, और कुछ यह एक गेंद पार्क रेंज ले. पवित्र नहीं, भगवान की एक सम्मानित शब्द.

अपनी खुद की पसंद के आंकड़े उद्धृत, मोंटेक सिंह अहलूवालिया की है कि वास्तव में अपने मौत के खिलाफ के रूप में वास्तव में "धर्मी रोष है."

किसी भी बहस के लिए जमीन नियमों के खेल के नियमों को बदनाम करना नहीं है. यदि आप कभी भी एक बहुत प्रसिद्ध एकाधिकार बोर्ड खेल खेलते हैं, आप या तो एक बहुत अमीर व्यक्ति या एक दु: खी व्यक्ति एक देनदार जेल में सलाखों के पीछे बंद कर दिया होगा.

मैं तुम्हें सलाखों के पीछे देखते हैं, एक देश क्लब में नहीं, पीना Martinis, हवाना, हाथ सिगार लुढ़का, व्हीलिंग धूम्रपान और अपने chums के साथ निपटने और घास बनाने जबकि सूरज चमकता है.

एक जीवन प्राप्त करें.

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    कभी सोचा है क्या यह जीने की
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    गरीबी रेखा
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    2011 अनुसंधान में सुधार कर सकते हैं
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    / www.trickleup.org गरीबी

    1.4 अरब लोग गरीबी में जीते
    खोजें बाहर कैसे हम गरीबी लड़ रहे हैं
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    www.opportunitynation.org

    मदद अवसर आगे बढ़ें और उन्मूलन
    अमेरिका में गरीबी आज साइन अप करें.
    गरीबी ऑर्ग
    www.one.org

    लड़ाई बनाम गरीबी में समाधान
    देश अपने स्वयं के क्षमता निर्माण
    गरीबी रेखा
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    राष्ट्रीय गरीबी डेटा
    अनुसंधान एवं तथ्य
    राज्य गरीबी दरें
    data.nationalpriorities.org

    संघीय प्राथमिकताएं धन्यवाद है
    राज्य द्वारा गरीबी की दर. तुम्हारा देखें.
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    www.shakepoverty.org

    हमारी पीढ़ी गरीबी अंत कर सकते हैं
    Shakepoverty के बारे में अब और अधिक जानें!

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Ṭī.Ēna. Nainana: Dharmī rōṣa indeedT ēna nināna/ na'ī dillī October 15, 2011 00:20 Hāla hī mēṁ garībī bahasa mēṁ vāpasa ISTLooking, yaha spaṣṭa hai ki isa vāmapanthī jhukāva ṭippaṇīkārōṁ nikāla kā ēka aura māmalā binā kāraṇa unakī plīhā

Garībī bahasa hai ki tīna haphtē pahalē flared nīcē mara rahā hai. Pīchē muṛakara dēkhēṁ, yaha spaṣṭa hai ki yaha vāmapanthī jhukāva ṭippaṇīkārōṁ nikāla kē ēka māmalē mēṁ binā kāraṇa unakī plīhā thā. Kyōṅki, vyāpaka rūpa sē 32 rupayē prati dina kā mazāka uṛāyā aura śaharōṁ mēṁ 26 rupayē gānvōṁ mēṁ vyaya stara para ādhikārika bhāratīya garībī rēkhā apanē sahasrābdi vikāsa lakṣyōṁ (ēmaḍījī) kē li'ē sanyukta rāṣṭra (yū'ēna) kē dvārā prayōga kiyā jātā hai ki karanē kē li'ē tulanīya hai. Ēmaḍījī garībī rēkhā prati dina $ 1.25 Hai. Yōjanā āyōga nē suprīma kōrṭa kō batāyā sē bahuta alaga nahīṁ hai - maujūdā vinimaya dara para, śakti samatā hai, ki 29 rupayē, dōnōṁ aura bhārata mēṁ gānva aura śahara kē li'ē kē bārē mēṁ bāhara kāma karatā hai kraya mila samāyōjita. Tō sanyukta rāṣṭra kī mān'yatā'ōṁ aura lakṣya duniyā bhara mēṁ svīkāra ki'ē jātē haiṁ, adālata kē bāhara kiyā jānā cāhi'ē bhī hooted?

Gānvōṁ mēṁ 130 rupayē: Dūsarā, grāmīṇa rōjagāra gāraṇṭī kāryakrama kē tahata nirdhārita majadūrī ēka pān̄ca sadasyīya parivāra kē li'ē garībī rēkhā sē mēla khātā hai. Rāṣṭrīya salāhakāra pariṣada (ēna'ēsī) isē aura adhika hō sakatā hai cāhatā hai, isē bardāśta nahīṁ kara sakatē, sarakāra kahatē haiṁ. Tō mahāparākramī aruṇā rŏya, jō ēna'ēsī kē ēka sadasya hai, kyōṁ manamōhana sinha pūchanā nahīṁ hai agara vaha hai ki majadūrī para raha sakatē haiṁ tarīkē mēṁ hai ki vaha mōṇṭēka sinha ahalūvāliyā kē savāla samakṣa rakhī hai? Yadi vaha pradhānamantrī nahīṁ pūchatē, kyōṅki yaha aśiṣṭa aura aprāsaṅgika hō jā'ēgā, isali'ē yaha nahīṁ thā aśiṣṭa aura aprāsaṅgika jaba śrī ahalūvāliyā kē samakṣa dēra surēśa tēndulakara kī gaṇanā pad'dhati hai? Vāstava mēṁ vr̥d'dhi hu'ī saṅkhyā ādhikārika taura para ghōṣita karanē kē li'ē garība 27.5 Sē, Pratiśata janasaṅkhyā kā 37.2 Pratiśata (2004-05) kē li'ē. Isī taraha, 1993 mēṁ ēka aura samiti garībī māpanē kī vidhi badala gayā thā, aura jisasē bhī adhika tējī sē 1987-88 kē li'ē garībī rēkhā sē nīcē saṅkhyā uṭhāyā pratiśata 29.9 Sē 46.3 Phīsadī. Yadi ārōpa hai ki sarakāra arthaśāstrī garībī saṅkhyā kē sātha nagaṇya kiyā gayā hai unhēṁ nīcē lānē, kisī kā kahanā hai ki"nagaṇya" garībī saṅkhyā uṭhāyā gayā hai, ēka bāra nahīṁ balki pichalē dō daśakōṁ mēṁ dō bāra hōnā cāhi'ē.

Pēśēvara vālōṁ kā tarka hai ki bhāratīya garībī kē stara saba para asvīkr̥ta nahīṁ hai, vāstava mēṁ hai ki vē adhika sē adhika 1983 mēṁ aba kara rahē haiṁ - jaba dēśa kī prati vyakti āya kyā yaha āja hai kī ēka tihā'ī sē bhī kama thā. Unhōnnē yaha bhī kahanā hai ki bhūkha sthiti aba 1943 kē baṅgāla kē akāla kē daurāna sē bhī badatara hai! Aura vē paurāṇika kathā'ōṁ hai ki 77 phīsadī ābādī kā 2004-05 mēṁ prati dina 20 rupayē sē kama para rahatē thē dōharātē rahatē haiṁ. Yadi hama unakī saṅkhyā kē rūpa mēṁ dī lē, garībī rēkhā sē 20 rupa'ē kē ūpara thōṛā prati dina, sēṭa 2011 taka mudrāsphīti kē li'ē samāyōjita, 35 rupayē prati dina kē bārē mēṁ hōgā. Aura isa taraha kē ēka garībī rēkhā kē bārē mēṁ 80 pratiśata janasaṅkhyā kō kavara kiyā jā'ēgā hai - sabhī jinamēṁ sē tō sarakāra kē garībī virōdhī kāryakramōṁ kā lābha milēgā. Dikkata yaha hai ki duniyā mēṁ kō'ī dēśa garībī unmūlana aura āya hastāntaraṇa prōgrāma hai ki isakī janasaṅkhyā kā pratiśata 80 kō śāmila kiyā gayā hai, kyōṅki yaha sirpha rājakōṣa divāliyā hōgā.

Saca tō yaha hai ki ina atiran̄jita garībī saṅkhyā sirpha vāstavikatā kā ēka pratibimba nahīṁ kiyā jā sakatā hai. Yadi vāstava mēṁ 80 phīsadī lōga āja vibhinna starōṁ para prati dina 35 rupa'ē sē nīcē rahatē haiṁ, unakē vārṣika upabhōga vyaya 10,00,000 karōṛa rupayē yā 11,00,000 karōṛa rupayē hōgā. Kula nijī bārē mēṁ 50,00,000 karōṛa rupayē para anumānita khapata kē sātha, isa śēṣa ābādī kā 20 phīsadī kharca kā ēka stara hai ki kē rūpa mēṁ lagabhaga cāra gunā phīsadī nīcē 80 kē rūpa mēṁ jyādā hai dētā hai. Saca hai, tathāpi, kahīṁ bhayāvaha rūpa nikaṭa hai: Sabasē amīra 20 pratiśata phīsadī nīcē 80 sē kama khapata cāra gunā adhika nahīṁ hai. Lēkina jō asuvidhājanaka tathyōṁ jaba dharmī rōṣa itanā āsāna hai karanā cāhatā hai?

Apanī ṭippaṇī kē li'ē dhan'yavāda! Hama isē prakāśita karēṅgē skrīniṅga kē bāda

Mērī priya nināna,

Yaha apanē his'sē para ēka adbhuta kārya kiyā gayā thā. Apanē śīrṣa ṭōpī sē bāhara ēka kharagōśa puliṅga. Gānva bēvakūpha aura thōṛā prāthamika skūla kē baccōṁ, śāyada. Maiṁ na tō una dō samūhōṁ kē li'ē sambandhita nahīṁ hūm̐.

Āḍambarapūrṇa vidvānōṁ kē tarka kē śīrṣaka ain'ta acchā saṅkēta hai. Yaha, ṭī ēna nainana?

Tuma ēka tarka banātē haiṁ. Sāṅkhyikī jhūṭha. Maiṁ sahamata hūm̐. Vaha ajība jānavara, apanī sthāpanā kē bāda sē, ēka hathiyāra kē rūpa mēṁ istēmāla kiyā gayā hai. Jyādātara rājanētā'ōṁ aura kursī rājanītika paṇḍitōṁ kē dvārā. Mujhē lagatā hai, āpa bāda śrēṇī mēṁ haiṁ. Varanā maiṁ tuma ḍāla hōgā rāhula gāndhī aura ēka bārahamāsī pradhānamantrī, bhājapā kē pūrva priya ā'ikana, lālakr̥ṣṇa āḍavāṇī kē bīca mēṁ kahīṁ.

Theorizing mēṁ kō'ī aparādha hai. Saba para kō'ī nahīṁ. Hālāṅki ēka buniyādī tarka hai ki garībī rēkhā ēka niścita kā upayōga kara sakatē haiṁ para apanē dayanīya aura saṛā hu'ā kamēṇṭarī, acchī taraha sē maudrika saṅkhyā kō paribhāṣita. Sabhī ām̐kaṛōṁ kī taraha dētē haiṁ, aura kucha yaha ēka gēnda pārka rēn̄ja lē. Pavitra nahīṁ, bhagavāna kī ēka sam'mānita śabda.

Apanī khuda kī pasanda kē āṅkaṛē ud'dhr̥ta, mōṇṭēka sinha ahalūvāliyā kī hai ki vāstava mēṁ apanē mauta kē khilāpha kē rūpa mēṁ vāstava mēṁ"dharmī rōṣa hai."

Kisī bhī bahasa kē li'ē jamīna niyamōṁ kē khēla kē niyamōṁ kō badanāma karanā nahīṁ hai. Yadi āpa kabhī bhī ēka bahuta prasid'dha ēkādhikāra bōrḍa khēla khēlatē haiṁ, āpa yā tō ēka bahuta amīra vyakti yā ēka du: Khī vyakti ēka dēnadāra jēla mēṁ salākhōṁ kē pīchē banda kara diyā hōgā.

Maiṁ tumhēṁ salākhōṁ kē pīchē dēkhatē haiṁ, ēka dēśa klaba mēṁ nahīṁ, pīnā Martinis, havānā, hātha sigāra luṛhakā, vhīliṅga dhūmrapāna aura apanē chums kē sātha nipaṭanē aura ghāsa banānē jabaki sūraja camakatā hai.

Ēka jīvana prāpta karēṁ.

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ইসলাম Ninan: ন্যায়নিষ্ঠ উন্মাদনা indeedT N, Ninan / নয়া দিল্লি অক্টোবর 15, 2011, 0:20 সাম্প্রতিক দারিদ্র্য বিতর্ক ফিরে ISTLooking, এটা পরিষ্কার যে এই কারণ ছিল না বাম পক্ষপাতী ভাষ্যকাররা venting অন্য ক্ষেত্রে তাদের প্লীহা

দারিদ্র্য বিতর্ক যে উদ্দীপ্ত তিন সপ্তাহ আগে ডাউন মৃতু্য হয়. খুঁজছি ফিরে, এটা পরিষ্কার যে এই কারণ ছিল না বাম ঝোঁক ভাষ্যকাররা venting অন্য ক্ষেত্রে তাদের বিদ্বেষ. ব্যাপকভাবে-অবহসিত টাকা 32 প্রতিদিন এর শহর গ্রামে এবং টাকা 26 মধ্যে ব্যয় পর্যায়ে কারন, সরকারী ভারতীয় দারিদ্র্য রেখা হল তুলনীয় যে মিলেনিয়াম ডেভেলপমেন্ট গোলস (MDG) জন্য রাষ্ট্রসংঘের (জাতিসংঘের) দ্বারা ব্যবহৃত. MDG দারিদ্র্য রেখা দিন প্রতি 1.25. বর্তমান বিনিময় হার, নিয়মিত ক্ষমতা সমতা, যে টাকা 29, উভয় ভারতের গ্রাম ও শহর জন্য কাজ করে আউট ক্রয় পাবেন - খুব বিভিন্ন কি পরিকল্পনা কমিশন সুপ্রিম কোর্টের বলা থেকে না. তাই জাতিসংঘের অনুমিতি এবং টার্গেটের, বিশ্বের গ্রহণ করা উচিত আদালতের hooted খুব আউট?

টাকা 130 গ্রামের: দ্বিতীয়ত, রুরাল এমপ্লয়মেন্ট গ্যারান্টি প্রোগ্রামের অধীনে নির্ধারিত মজুরি একটি পাঁচ সদস্যের পরিবারের জন্য দারিদ্র্য রেখা ম্যাচ. ন্যাশনাল অ্যাডভাইসরি কাউন্সিল (NAC) বেশী হতে চায়; না সামর্থ্য করতে পারেন, বলছে সরকার. সুতরাং কেন, মনমোহন সিংহ না দুর্ধর্ষ অরুণা রায়, যিনি NAC সদস্য না পদ্ধতিতে জিজ্ঞাসা যদি তিনি যে মজুরি লাইভ পারেন, যে তিনি Montek সিং আলুওয়ালিয়া প্রশ্নের যাকে জাহির? যদি সে, জিজ্ঞাসা কি প্রধানমন্ত্রী না, কারণ এটা অভদ্র এবং অপ্রাসঙ্গিক হবে, কেন ছিল না অভদ্র এবং অপ্রাসঙ্গিক জনাব আলুওয়ালিয়া যখন যাকে জাহির? আসলে দেরী সুরেশ তেন্ডুলকর ও হিসাব পদ্ধতি সংখ্যা বৃদ্ধির আনুষ্ঠানিকভাবে ঘোষিত 27.5 থেকে দরিদ্র হবে, 37,2 শতাংশ (2004-05 জন্য) জনসংখ্যার শতাংশ. একইভাবে 1993 সালে আরেকটি কমিটি দারিদ্রতা পরিমাপের পদ্ধতি পরিবর্তন করেছে, সেই উদ্যত 1987-88 জন্য দারিদ্র সীমার নীচে সংখ্যা আরও রুঢ়ভাবে থেকে 29,9 শতাংশ 46,3 থেকে শতাংশ. যদি অভিযোগ করা হয় যে সরকার অর্থনীতিবিদ দারিদ্র্য সংখ্যার তুচ্ছ আছে তাদের পাড়া হয়েছে, কাউকে যে "তুচ্ছ" দারিদ্র্য নম্বর উত্থাপিত হয়েছে, না একবার কিন্তু দুইবার গত দুই দশকে বিন্দু উচিত.

পেশাদারী naysayers তর্ক যে ভারতীয় দারিদ্রের মাত্রা সব আছে প্রকৃতপক্ষে, পতিত না যে তারা উচ্চ বর্তমানে অধিক 1983 - যখন দেশের মাথাপিছু আয় ছিল কি এটি আজ একটি তৃতীয় কম. তারা বলে যে বর্তমানে ক্ষুধা অবস্থা সময় 1943 এর বাংলার দুর্ভিক্ষ চেয়ে খারাপ! এবং তারা রাখতে পুরাণ যে জনসংখ্যার শতকরা 77 টাকা 2004-05 দিনের প্রতি 20 কম দীর্ঘায়ু পুনরাবৃত্ত. যদি আমরা তাদের সংখ্যা হিসাবে প্রদত্ত করা, একটি দারিদ্র্য রেখা টাকা 20 উপরোক্ত সামান্য সেট প্রতিদিন, থেকে 2011 পর্যন্ত মুদ্রাস্ফীতি জন্য নিয়মিত, টাকা 35 প্রতিদিন প্রায় হবে. যেমন একটি দারিদ্র্য রেখা প্রায় 80 জনসংখ্যার শতকরা আবরণ হবে - সব, যাদের পরে সরকার বিরোধী দারিদ্র্য প্রোগ্রাম সুবিধা পেতে হবে. সমস্যা হল যে বিশ্বের কোন দেশ দারিদ্র দূরীকরণ এবং আয় ট্রান্সফার প্রোগ্রাম এর জনসংখ্যার শতকরা 80 জুড়ে আছে, কারণ এটি কেবল ধনভাণ্ডার দেউলিয়া হবে.

সত্য শুধু এই ক্ষতিকারক দারিদ্র্য সংখ্যা প্রকৃতপক্ষে এর একটি প্রতিফলন সম্ভব নয়. যদি সত্যই 80 জন শতাংশ টাকা 35 নিচে বিভিন্ন প্রতিদিন পর্যায়ে লাইভ আজ, তাদের বার্ষিক ব্যয় ব্যয় 10,00,000 টাকা কোটি টাকা বা 11,00,000 কোটি টাকা হবে. মোট ব্যক্তিগত ব্যয় সম্পর্কে টাকা 50,00,000 কোটি আনুমানিক সঙ্গে, এই দেয় খরচের একটি স্তর যা নীচে 80 এর যে প্রায় চার গুণ হিসাবে শতকরা কত অবশিষ্ট 20 জনসংখ্যা শতাংশ. সত্য, তবে হয় ভয়ঙ্কর হিসেবে দাঁড়াতেই কাছাকাছি: ধনী 20 শতাংশ শতাংশ নীচে 80 কম চার বেশি গ্রাস, না. কিন্তু যারা অসুবিধাজনক ঘটনা যখন ন্যায়পর প্রকোপ হয় এত সহজ চায়?

আপনার মন্তব্য জন্য ধন্যবাদ! আমরা প্রকাশ করা হবে পরে স্ক্রীনিং

আমার দয়িত Ninan,

এটা আপনার একটা অংশ উপর আশ্চর্যজনক কাজ. Pulling আপনার উপরে টুপি থেকে একটি খরগোসের আউট. জন্য গ্রাম idiots এবং সামান্য প্রাথমিক স্কুলের বাচ্চাদের সম্ভবত. আমি ঐ দুই দলের কেউই না অন্তর্গত নয়.

শব্দাড়ম্বরপূর্ণ শিরোনাম ain'ta পাণ্ডিত্যপূর্ণ যুক্তি ভালো সাইন. এটা কি, T-N, Ninan?

আপনি তর্ক করা. পরিসংখ্যান মিথ্যা. আমি একমত. এর গোড়া থেকে যে অদ্ভুত প্রাণী,, হয়েছে একটি অস্ত্র হিসেবে ব্যবহৃত. বেশিরভাগ দ্বারা রাজনীতিবিদ এবং আরামকেদারা রাজনৈতিক pundits. আমি অনুমান, আপনি আধুনিক শ্রেণী থেকে অন্তর্গত. অন্যথায় আমি রাখা মধ্যে রাহুল গান্ধি এবং একটি বর্ষজীবী প্রধানমন্ত্রী, প্রাক্তন বিজেপি এর প্রিয়তম আইকন, LK আদবানি মধ্যে হবে কোথাও আপনি.

Theorizing কোন অপরাধ নেই. সব সময়ে কেউ. তবে আপনার মূল যুক্তি কিনা দারিদ্র্য রেখা একটি নির্দিষ্ট ব্যবহার করতে পারেন বেশী অভাগা এবং পচা ভাষ্য ভাল, আর্থিক সংখ্যা নির্ধারণ করুন. সকল পরিসংখ্যান চান, এবং দিতে কয়েক এটা একটা বল পার্ক পরিসীমা করা. পবিত্র, নয় ঈশ্বরের সম্মান শব্দ.

আপনার মূল্যউদ্ধৃত যে Montek সিং আলুওয়ালিয়া এর মধ্যে সত্যিই আপনার, নিহত বিরুদ্ধে আপনার নিজস্ব করুন এর পরিসংখ্যান, "ন্যায়নিষ্ঠ উন্মাদনা সত্যই."

কোনো বিতর্কের জন্য স্থল নিয়ম খেলার নিয়ম কালিমালিপ্ত হয় না. আপনি যদি কখনও একটি খুব বিখ্যাত মনোপলি বোর্ড গেম খেলা, অথবা আপনি একটি খুব ধনী ব্যক্তি বা একটি বিষণ্ণ ব্যক্তি ঋণী করে কারাগারে বার পিছনে লক হবে.

আমি বার পিছনে দেখতে, না দেশের ক্লাব, Martinis sipping, হাভানা, হাত ঘূর্ণিত সিগার, wheeling ধূমপান এবং আপনার chums সঙ্গে আচরণ এবং খড় তৈরীর যখন সূর্য shines.

একটি জীবন পেতে.

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Isalāma Ninan: N'yāẏaniṣṭha unmādanā indeedT N, Ninan/ naẏā dilli akṭōbara 15, 2011, 0:20 Sāmpratika dāridrya bitarka phirē ISTLooking, ēṭā pariṣkāra yē ē'i kāraṇa chila nā bāma pakṣapātī bhāṣyakārarā venting an'ya kṣētrē tādēra plīhā

Dāridrya bitarka yē uddīpta tina saptāha āgē ḍā'una mr̥tuya haẏa. Khum̐jachi phirē, ēṭā pariṣkāra yē ē'i kāraṇa chila nā bāma jhōm̐ka bhāṣyakārarā venting an'ya kṣētrē tādēra bidbēṣa. Byāpakabhābē-abahasita ṭākā 32 pratidina ēra śahara grāmē ēbaṁ ṭākā 26 madhyē byaẏa paryāẏē kārana, sarakārī bhāratīẏa dāridrya rēkhā hala tulanīẏa yē milēniẏāma ḍēbhēlapamēnṭa gōlasa (MDG) jan'ya rāṣṭrasaṅghēra (jātisaṅghēra) dbārā byabahr̥ta. MDG dāridrya rēkhā dina prati 1.25. Bartamāna binimaẏa hāra, niẏamita kṣamatā samatā, yē ṭākā 29, ubhaẏa bhāratēra grāma ō śahara jan'ya kāja karē ā'uṭa kraẏa pābēna - khuba bibhinna ki parikalpanā kamiśana suprima kōrṭēra balā thēkē nā. Tā'i jātisaṅghēra anumiti ēbaṁ ṭārgēṭēra, biśbēra grahaṇa karā ucita ādālatēra hooted khuba ā'uṭa?

Ṭākā 130 grāmēra: Dbitīẏata, rurāla ēmaplaẏamēnṭa gyārānṭi prōgrāmēra adhīnē nirdhārita majuri ēkaṭi pām̐ca sadasyēra paribārēra jan'ya dāridrya rēkhā myāca. N'yāśanāla ayāḍabhā'isari kā'unsila (NAC) bēśī hatē cāẏa; nā sāmarthya karatē pārēna, balachē sarakāra. Sutarāṁ kēna, manamōhana sinha nā durdharṣa aruṇā rāẏa, yini NAC sadasya nā pad'dhatitē jijñāsā yadi tini yē majuri lā'ibha pārēna, yē tini Montek siṁ ālu'ōẏāliẏā praśnēra yākē jāhira? Yadi sē, jijñāsā ki pradhānamantrī nā, kāraṇa ēṭā abhadra ēbaṁ aprāsaṅgika habē, kēna chila nā abhadra ēbaṁ aprāsaṅgika janāba ālu'ōẏāliẏā yakhana yākē jāhira? Āsalē dērī surēśa tēnḍulakara ō hisāba pad'dhati saṅkhyā br̥d'dhira ānuṣṭhānikabhābē ghōṣita 27.5 Thēkē daridra habē, 37,2 Śatānśa (2004-05 jan'ya) janasaṅkhyāra śatānśa. Ēka'ibhābē 1993 sālē ārēkaṭi kamiṭi dāridratā parimāpēra pad'dhati paribartana karēchē, sē'i udyata 1987-88 jan'ya dāridra sīmāra nīcē saṅkhyā āra'ō ruṛhabhābē thēkē 29,9 śatānśa 46,3 thēkē śatānśa. Yadi abhiyōga karā haẏa yē sarakāra arthanītibida dāridrya saṅkhyāra tuccha āchē tādēra pāṛā haẏēchē, kā'ukē yē"tuccha" dāridrya nambara ut'thāpita haẏēchē, nā ēkabāra kintu du'ibāra gata du'i daśakē bindu ucita.

Pēśādārī naysayers tarka yē bhāratīẏa dāridrēra mātrā saba āchē prakr̥tapakṣē, patita nā yē tārā ucca bartamānē adhika 1983 - yakhana dēśēra māthāpichu āẏa chila ki ēṭi āja ēkaṭi tr̥tīẏa kama. Tārā balē yē bartamānē kṣudhā abasthā samaẏa 1943 ēra bānlāra durbhikṣa cēẏē khārāpa! Ēbaṁ tārā rākhatē purāṇa yē janasaṅkhyāra śatakarā 77 ṭākā 2004-05 dinēra prati 20 kama dīrghāẏu punarābr̥tta. Yadi āmarā tādēra saṅkhyā hisābē pradatta karā, ēkaṭi dāridrya rēkhā ṭākā 20 uparōkta sāmān'ya sēṭa pratidina, thēkē 2011 paryanta mudrāsphīti jan'ya niẏamita, ṭākā 35 pratidina prāẏa habē. Yēmana ēkaṭi dāridrya rēkhā prāẏa 80 janasaṅkhyāra śatakarā ābaraṇa habē - saba, yādēra parē sarakāra birōdhī dāridrya prōgrāma subidhā pētē habē. Samasyā hala yē biśbēra kōna dēśa dāridra dūrīkaraṇa ēbaṁ āẏa ṭrānsaphāra prōgrāma ēra janasaṅkhyāra śatakarā 80 juṛē āchē, kāraṇa ēṭi kēbala dhanabhāṇḍāra dē'uliẏā habē.

Satya śudhu ē'i kṣatikāraka dāridrya saṅkhyā prakr̥tapakṣē ēra ēkaṭi pratiphalana sambhaba naẏa. Yadi satya'i 80 jana śatānśa ṭākā 35 nicē bibhinna pratidina paryāẏē lā'ibha āja, tādēra bārṣika byaẏa byaẏa 10,00,000 ṭākā kōṭi ṭākā bā 11,00,000 kōṭi ṭākā habē. Mōṭa byaktigata byaẏa samparkē ṭākā 50,00,000 kōṭi ānumānika saṅgē, ē'i dēẏa kharacēra ēkaṭi stara yā nīcē 80 ēra yē prāẏa cāra guṇa hisābē śatakarā kata abaśiṣṭa 20 janasaṅkhyā śatānśa. Satya, tabē haẏa bhaẏaṅkara hisēbē dām̐ṛātē'i kāchākāchi: Dhanī 20 śatānśa śatānśa nīcē 80 kama cāra bēśi grāsa, nā. Kintu yārā asubidhājanaka ghaṭanā yakhana n'yāẏapara prakōpa haẏa ēta sahaja cāẏa?

Āpanāra mantabya jan'ya dhan'yabāda! Āmarā prakāśa karā habē parē skrīniṁ

Āmāra daẏita Ninan,

Ēṭā āpanāra ēkaṭā anśa upara āścaryajanaka kāja. Pulling āpanāra uparē ṭupi thēkē ēkaṭi kharagōsēra ā'uṭa. Jan'ya grāma idiots ēbaṁ sāmān'ya prāthamika skulēra bāccādēra sambhabata. Āmi ai du'i dalēra kē'u'i nā antargata naẏa.

Śabdāṛambarapūrṇa śirōnāma ain'ta pāṇḍityapūrṇa yukti bhālō sā'ina. Ēṭā ki, T-N, Ninan?

Āpani tarka karā. Parisaṅkhyāna mithyā. Āmi ēkamata. Ēra gōṛā thēkē yē adbhuta prāṇī,, haẏēchē ēkaṭi astra hisēbē byabahr̥ta. Bēśirabhāga dbārā rājanītibida ēbaṁ ārāmakēdārā rājanaitika pundits. Āmi anumāna, āpani ādhunika śrēṇī thēkē antargata. An'yathāẏa āmi rākhā madhyē rāhula gāndhi ēbaṁ ēkaṭi barṣajībī pradhānamantrī, prāktana bijēpi ēra priẏatama ā'ikana, LK ādabāni madhyē habē kōthā'ō āpani.

Theorizing kōna aparādha nē'i. Saba samaẏē kē'u. Tabē āpanāra mūla yukti kinā dāridrya rēkhā ēkaṭi nirdiṣṭa byabahāra karatē pārēna bēśī abhāgā ēbaṁ pacā bhāṣya bhāla, ārthika saṅkhyā nirdhāraṇa karuna. Sakala parisaṅkhyāna cāna, ēbaṁ ditē kaẏēka ēṭā ēkaṭā bala pārka parisīmā karā. Pabitra, naẏa īśbarēra sam'māna śabda.

Āpanāra mūlya'ud'dhr̥ta yē Montek siṁ ālu'ōẏāliẏā ēra madhyē satyi'i āpanāra, nihata birud'dhē āpanāra nijasba karuna ēra parisaṅkhyāna, "n'yāẏaniṣṭha unmādanā satya'i."

Kōnō bitarkēra jan'ya sthala niẏama khēlāra niẏama kālimālipta haẏa nā. Āpani yadi kakhana'ō ēkaṭi khuba bikhyāta manōpali bōrḍa gēma khēlā, athabā āpani ēkaṭi khuba dhanī byakti bā ēkaṭi biṣaṇṇa byakti r̥ṇī karē kārāgārē bāra pichanē laka habē.

Āmi bāra pichanē dēkhatē, nā dēśēra klāba, Martinis sipping, hābhānā, hāta ghūrṇita sigāra, wheeling dhūmapāna ēbaṁ āpanāra chums saṅgē ācaraṇa ēbaṁ khaṛa tairīra yakhana sūrya shines.

Ēkaṭi jībana pētē.

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NEW DELHI: India and China have overtaken European countriesin the number of affluent households while the US remains most prosperous country in the world, according to a research firm.According to TNS Global Affluent Investors’ study, India, China and Brazil have overtaken many European countries in this measure of consumer wealth with three million affluent households each in these countries which have over USD 100,000 investible funds. “India and China have already surpassed major European markets like Germany and France. It’s interesting to see that the entrepreneurial spirit of people in these markets is already paying off in terms of personal wealth,” TNS Director Business and Finance Reg van Steen said.

While the US is ranked as the world’s most prosperous country, with 31 million affluent households, UAE and India appear in the top five countries where the affluent have more than USD 1 million investable assets on average, alongside Singapore and Hong Kong. The only Europeans to feature in top five are the Swedish, while UK and France are least likely in Europe to have these levels of investable assets, the study said. The study also highlighted that while incidence of affluence would be higher in small, wealthy countries like Luxemburg (29 per cent) and Singapore (20 per cent), this falls to around (1 per cent) in India and China.

“This demonstrates a great contrast in wealth distribution within emerging markets, even where the actual number of affluent households is high and highlights a need for very precise marketing strategies to reach the right audience,” it said.

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Indian (India)
4 hrs ago (02:24 AM)
Duh! India’s population is equal to that of Europe and US combined! This is a pretty useless article. All such absolute numbers do not indicate anything. All indicators should be on per-capita basis and dollar value, not ppp for comparison. Here is a more down-to-earth comparison courtesy of Google Public Data Explorer. GDP per capita USA: $45,989 GDP per capita UK: $35,165 GDP per capita Japan: $39,738 GDP per capita S Korea: $17,078 GDP per capita Thailand: $3,893 GDP per capita China: $3,744 GDP per capita India: $1,192 Indians need to wake up and smell the reality. India is a lot behind. We are nowhere compared to other countries. Stop thinking India is on the top of the world, and just put your heads down and work tirelessly! Science and research is the way to reach the top. Make everything faster and more efficient!
Indian (India) replies to Indian
46 mins ago (06:18 AM)
Tea: 2 euros, Rs.6 Rice : 2 euros per kgs, 30 Rs/Kg House rent: 1200 euros for a 2 bedroom flat, 10,000 Rs for the same Transportation: 5 euros for a day pass within the city limits max 40 Rs. Levi’s jeans cost your around 80-100 euros where as in india it cost you around 1500-2000 Rs. the cost of living is very cheap as the per capita income, so we should alwayz go with GDP(PPP).
sunny (sydney) replies to Indian
1 hr ago (06:03 AM)
Even though the current population growth is around 2% still the number of Indians added every year is massive 2.5 crores( population of Australia) Every year one country’s population(Australia) is created in India. India needs to Control population.Indians need to migrate to newer destination like Non English speaking European and South American countries in large numbers. Trust me an Indian will do better than the local population of any country. It will not solve the problem but will ease some pressure on the population and employment.
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TOI, I admit. This is the first time ever, I found very intelligent readership, as witnessed by the three comments before me.

Be stupid, you, TOI, knows it the best.

By the way, I lost track of your most favorite theme, “India’s Superpower.” Please fill me in. I was too busy counting the number of the poor people in India, the so called, much discussed and equally disputed, BPL, Oops, I better spell it out for those who are millionaires, billionaires with investible income of over $1,000,000.

47%. Nearly half of the population. Currently, my guesstimate, of 1,2,000,000,000 (One billion and two hundred million, give and take few thousands)

Get smart, TOI. It pays.

…and I am Sid Harth@cogitoergosuminc.com

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新德里消息：印度和中国在富裕家庭的数量已经超过欧洲国家，而美国仍然在世界上最繁荣的国家，根据市场研究公司。

据TNS的全球富裕投资者的研究，印度，中国和巴西已超越三百万每一个富裕家庭，在这些国家，其中有超过10万美元的投资资金在这个衡量消费者的财 富与许多欧洲国家。 “印度和中国已经超过德国和法国等主要欧洲市场。它的有趣地看到，在这些市场中的人的创业精神已经支付在个人财富方面，“TNS总监业务和财务注册面包车 斯蒂恩表示。

尽管美国被列为世界上最繁荣的国家，与31万富裕家庭，阿联酋和印度前五位的国家富裕，与新加坡和香港有超过100万美元的平均投资资产，出现。五 大功能的唯一的欧洲人是瑞典，而英国和法国在欧洲是最可能有这些投资资产水平，该研究称。该研究还强调，虽然富裕的小富裕的国家，如卢森堡（29％）和新 加坡（20％）的发病率将更高，这属于各地在印度和中国（1％）。

“这表明在新兴市场内的财富分配的巨大反差，即使在富裕家庭的实际数量是很高，并强调需要非常精确的营销策略，以达到正确的受众，”它说。
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不错！印度的人口是欧洲和美国的总和等于！这是一个相当无用的文章。所有这些绝对数字并不表示什么。所有的指标应该是人均基础和比较的美元价值，而非购买 力平价。这里谷歌公共数据资源管理器是一个比较扎实的礼貌。人 均国内生产总值美国$四五九八九国内生产总值每人均英国：$三万五千一百六十五国内生产总值每人均日：$三九七三八人均国内生产总值的小号韩国：$ 17,078每人均泰国国内生产总值：$ 3,893国内生产总值每人均中国：$ 3,744国内生产总值每人均印度：$ 1,192印度人需要唤醒和嗅觉现实。印度是一个很大的背后。我们无处与其他国家相比。停止思考印度是世界顶级的，只是把你的头和不懈努力！科学和研究的 方式到达山顶。让一切都更快，更高效！
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茶：最大2欧元，Rs.6大米每公斤2欧元，30卢比/公斤房租：1200欧元为2睡房单位，10000 RS相同的交通：在市区范围内的5欧元每天通过40卢比。李维斯牛仔裤的成本约80-100欧元，在印度，它的成本约1500至2000年卢比。生活费用 的人均收入是非常便宜，所以我们应该alwayz与国内生产总值（PPP）。
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即使目前的人口增长约2％的印度人的数量每年新增庞大的2.5亿卢比（澳大利亚的人口）每一个国家的人口（澳大利亚）在印度建立的一年。印度需要控制 population.Indians需要迁移到新的目的地如非英语讲大量的欧洲和南美国家。相信我，印度会比任何国家的当地居民。它不会解决问题，反而 会缓解一些人口和就业压力。
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TOI的，我承认。这是有史以来第一次，我发现很聪明的读者，我之前的三点意见见证。

是愚蠢的，你，TOI，知道它的最好。

顺便说一下，我失去了跟踪您最喜爱的主题，“印度的超级大国。”请填写我进来，我太忙计数在印度，穷人的数量的所谓的讨论和同样有争议的，BPL的，哎呀，我更是百万富翁，那些法术，亿万富翁投资的收入超过100万美元。

47％。将近一半的人口。目前，我的猜​​测1,2,000,000,000，（一亿两百万元，并采取几千）

耍小聪明，TOI。它自付。

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Xīn délǐ xiāoxi: Yìndù hé zhōngguó zài fùyù jiātíng de shùliàng yǐjīng chāoguò ōuzhōu guójiā, ér měiguó réngrán zài shìjiè shàng zuì fánróng de guójiā, gēnjù shìchǎng yánjiū gōngsī.

Jù TNS de quánqiú fùyù tóuzī zhě de yánjiū, yìndù, zhōngguó hé bāxī yǐ chāoyuè sān bǎiwàn měi yīgè fùyù jiātíng, zài zhèxiē guójiā, qízhōng yǒu chāoguò 10 wàn měiyuán de tóuzī zījīn zài zhège héngliáng xiāofèi zhě de cáifù yǔ xǔduō ōuzhōu guójiā. “Yìndù hé zhōngguó yǐjīng chāoguò déguó hé fàguó děng zhǔyào ōuzhōu shìchǎng. Tā de yǒuqù de kàn dào, zài zhèxiē shìchǎng zhōng de rén de chuàngyè jīngshén yǐjīng zhīfù zài gèrén cáifù fāngmiàn,“TNS zǒngjiān yèwù hé cáiwù zhùcè miànbāochē sī dì ēn biǎoshì.

Jǐnguǎn měiguó bèi liè wèi shìjiè shàng zuì fánróng de guójiā, yǔ 31 wàn fùyù jiātíng, āliánqiú hé yìndù qián wǔ wèi de guójiā fùyù, yǔ xīnjiāpō hé xiānggǎng yǒu chāoguò 100 wàn měiyuán de píngjūn tóuzī zīchǎn, chūxiàn. Wǔdà gōngnéng de wéi yī de ōuzhōu rén shì ruìdiǎn, ér yīngguó hé fàguó zài ōuzhōu shì zuì kěnéng yǒu zhèxiē tóuzī zīchǎn shuǐpíng, gāi yánjiū chēng. Gāi yánjiū hái qiángdiào, suīrán fùyù de xiǎo fùyù de guójiā, rú lúsēnbǎo (29%) hé xīnjiāpō (20%) de fǎ bìng lǜ jiāng gèng gāo, zhè shǔyú gèdì zài yìndù hé zhōngguó (1%).

“Zhè biǎomíng zài xīnxīng shìchǎng nèi de cáifù fēnpèi de jùdà fǎnchā, jíshǐ zài fùyù jiātíng de shíjì shùliàng shì hěn gāo, bìng qiángdiào xūyào fēicháng jīngquè de yíngxiāo cèlüè, yǐ dádào zhèngquè de shòuzhòng,” tā shuō.
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Bùcuò! Yìndù de rénkǒu shì ōuzhōu hé měiguó de zǒnghé děngyú! Zhè shì yīgè xiāngdāng wú yòng de wénzhāng. Suǒyǒu zhèxiē juéduì shùzì bìng bù biǎoshì shénme. Suǒyǒu de zhǐbiāo yīnggāi shì rénjūn jīchǔ hé bǐjiào dì měiyuán jiàzhí, ér fēi gòumǎilì píngjià. Zhèlǐ gǔgē gōnggòng shùjù zīyuán guǎnlǐ qì shì yīgè bǐjiào zhāshi de lǐmào. Rénjūn guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí měiguó $sì wǔ jiǔ bā jiǔ guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí měi rénjūn yīngguó:$Sān wàn wǔ qiān yī bǎi liù shí wǔ guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí měi rénjūn rì:$Sānjiǔ qī sān bā rénjūn guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí de xiǎo hào hánguó:$ 17,078 Měi rénjūn tàiguó guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí:$ 3,893 Guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí měi rénjūn zhōngguó:$ 3,744 Guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí měi rénjūn yìndù:$ 1,192 Yìn duó rén xūyào huànxǐng hé xiùjué Xiànshí. Yìndù shì yīgè hěn dà de bèihòu. Wǒmen wú chù yǔ qítā guójiā xiāng bǐ. Tíngzhǐ sīkǎo yìndù shì shìjiè dǐngjí de, zhǐshì bǎ nǐ de tóu hé bùxiè nǔlì! Kēxué hé yánjiū de fāngshì dàodá shāndǐng. Ràng yīqiè dōu gèng kuài, gèng gāoxiào!
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Chá: Zuìdà 2 ōuyuán,Rs.6 Dàmǐ měi gōngjīn 2 ōuyuán,30 lúbǐ/gōngjīn fángzū:1200 Ōuyuán wèi 2 shuì fáng dānwèi,10000 RS xiāngtóng de jiāotōng: Zài shì qū fànwéi nèi de 5 ōuyuán měi tiān tōngguò 40 lúbǐ . Liwéisī niúzǎikù de chéngběn yuē 80-100 ōuyuán, zài yìndù, tā de chéngběn yuē 1500 zhì 2000 nián lúbǐ. Shēnghuó fèiyòng de rénjūn shōurù shì fēicháng piányi, suǒyǐ wǒmen yīnggāi alwayz yǔ guónèi shēngchǎn zǒng zhí (PPP).
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Jíshǐ mùqián de rénkǒu zēngzhǎng yuē 2%de yìn duó rén de shùliàng měinián xīn zēng pángdà de 2.5 Yì lúbǐ (àodàlìyǎ de rénkǒu) měi yīgè guójiā de rénkǒu (àodàlìyǎ) zài yìndù jiànlì de yī nián. Yìndù xūyào kòngzhì population.Indians xūyào qiānyí dào xīn de mùdì de rú fēi yīngyǔ jiǎng dàliàng de ōuzhōu hé nánměi guójiā. Xiāngxìn wǒ, yìndù huì bǐ rènhé guójiā dí dàng dì jūmín. Tā bù huì jiějué wèntí, fǎn’ér huì huǎn jiè yīxiē rénkǒu hé jiùyè yālì.
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TOI de, wǒ chéngrèn. Zhè shì yǒushǐ yǐlái dì yīcì, wǒ fāxiàn hěn cōngmíng de dúzhě, wǒ zhīqián de sān diǎn yìjiàn jiànzhèng.

Shì yúchǔn de, nǐ,TOI, zhīdào tā de zuì hǎo.

Shùnbiàn shuō yīxià, wǒ shīqùle gēnzōng nín zuì xǐ’ài de zhǔtí,“yìndù de chāojí dàguó.” Qǐng tiánxiě wǒ jìnlái, wǒ tài máng jìshù zài yìndù, qióngrén de shùliàng de suǒwèi de tǎolùn hé tóngyàng yǒu zhēngyì de,BPL de, āiyā , Wǒ gèng shì bǎiwàn fùwēng, nàxiē fǎshù, yìwàn fùwēng tóuzī de shōurù chāoguò 100 wàn měiyuán.

47%. Jiāngjìn yībàn de rénkǒu. Mùqián, wǒ de cāi​​cè 1,2,000,000,000,(yī yì liǎng bǎiwàn yuán, bìng cǎiqǔ jǐ qiān)

Shuǎ xiǎocōngmíng,TOI. Tā zì fù.

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Indien hat mehr wohlhabende Familien als in europäischen Ländern: Studie

PTI | 7 Oktober 2011, 01.08 Uhr IST
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NEU DELHI: Indien und China haben die europäischen Länder bei der Zahl der wohlhabenden Haushalte überholt, während die USA bleibt wohlhabendsten Land der Welt, nach einem Marktforschungsunternehmen.

Laut TNS Global Investors Affluent “-Studie, haben Indien, China und Brasilien in vielen europäischen Ländern in dieser Maßnahme des Verbraucherschutzes Reichtum überholt mit drei Millionen kaufkräftigen Haushalte jeweils in diesen Ländern, die über 100.000 US-Dollar investierbaren Fonds zu haben. “Indien und China haben bereits den wichtigsten europäischen Märkten wie Deutschland und Frankreich übertroffen. Es ist interessant zu sehen, dass der unternehmerische Geist der Menschen in diesen Märkten zahlt sich bereits aus in Bezug auf die persönlichen Reichtum, “TNS Director Business and Finance Reg van Steen sagte.

Während die USA als weltweit wohlhabendsten Land eingestuft wird, mit 31 Millionen kaufkräftigen Haushalten erscheinen VAE und Indien in den ersten fünf Ländern, in denen die Wohlhabenden haben mehr als 1 Mio. USD Anlagevermögen im Durchschnitt, neben Singapur und Hong Kong. Der einzige Europäer in fünf Merkmal sind die schwedischen, während Großbritannien und Frankreich am wenigsten wahrscheinlich in Europa zu diesen Ebenen Anlagevermögen haben, sagte der Studie. Die Studie zeigt auch, dass während Auftreten von Wohlstand wäre höher in kleinen, wohlhabenden Ländern wie Luxemburg (29 Prozent) und Singapur (20 Prozent), das auf rund (1 Prozent) in Indien und China fällt.

“Dies zeigt, ein großer Kontrast in die Verteilung des Reichtums in den Schwellenländern, auch wenn die tatsächliche Zahl der wohlhabenden Haushalte ist hoch und unterstreicht den Bedarf an sehr präzise Marketing-Strategien, um die richtige Zielgruppe zu erreichen”, hieß es.
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Duh! Indiens Bevölkerung ist gleich der Europa und den USA zusammen! Dies ist ein ziemlich nutzloses Artikel. Allen diesen absoluten Zahlen deuten nicht auf irgendetwas. Alle Indikatoren sollten auf Pro-Kopf-Basis-und Dollar-Wert, nicht ppp zum Vergleich werden. Hier ist eine down-to-earth Vergleich mit freundlicher Genehmigung von Google Public Data Explorer. BIP pro Kopf USA: 45.989 $ BIP pro Kopf UK: 35.165 $ BIP pro Kopf Japan: 39.738 $ BIP pro Kopf S Korea: 17.078 $ BIP pro Kopf Thailand: $ 3.893 BIP pro Kopf in China: $ 3.744 BIP pro Kopf Indien: $ 1.192 Indianer müssen aufwachen und Geruch die Realität. Indien ist eine Menge hinter sich. Wir sind nirgendwo Vergleich zu anderen Ländern. Hör auf zu denken Indien ist auf dem Gipfel der Welt, und setzen Sie Ihre Köpfe nach unten und arbeiten unermüdlich! Wissenschaft und Forschung ist der Weg an die Spitze zu erreichen. Mache alles schneller und effizienter!
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Tee: 2 €, Rs.6 Rice: 2 € pro kg, 30 Rs / Kg Haus vermieten: 1200 € für ein 2-Zimmer-Wohnung, 10.000 Rs für den gleichen Transport: 5 Euro für eine Tageskarte innerhalb der Stadtgrenzen max 40 Rs . Levi-Jeans kostet Sie etwa 80-100 Euro, wo, wie in Indien kostet rund 1500-2000 Rs. die Entwicklung der Lebenshaltungskosten ist sehr billig, wie die Pro-Kopf-Einkommen, so sollten wir alwayz mit einem BIP (PPP) zu gehen.
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Auch wenn die derzeitige Bevölkerungswachstum liegt bei 2% immer noch die Zahl der Indianer aufgenommen wird jedes Jahr massiv 2,5 crores (Bevölkerung von Australien) Jedes Jahr wird ein Land Bevölkerung (Australien) in Indien erstellt wird. Indien muss die Kontrolle population.Indians müssen, um neuere Ziel wie Non englischsprachigen europäischen und südamerikanischen Ländern in großer Zahl zu migrieren. Vertrauen Sie mir ein indischer werden besser abschneiden als die einheimische Bevölkerung eines jeden Landes. Es wird das Problem nicht lösen, sondern wird ein gewisser Druck auf die Bevölkerung und die Beschäftigung zu erleichtern.
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TOI, gebe ich zu. Dies ist das erste Mal, fand ich sehr intelligente Leser, wie die drei Kommentare vor mir gesehen.

Dumm sein, weiß man, TOI, es am besten.

By the way, I Übersicht über Ihre Lieblings-Thema verloren, “Indiens Supermacht.” Please fill me in. ich zu beschäftigt war Zählen der Zahl der armen Menschen in Indien, die so genannte, viel diskutiert und ebenso umstritten, BPL, Oops ich besser buchstabieren es für diejenigen, die Millionäre sind, Milliardäre mit investierbaren Einkommen von über $ 1.000.000.

47%. Fast die Hälfte der Bevölkerung. Derzeit, meine guesstimate, der 1,2,000,000,000 (Eine Milliarde und 200 Millionen, geben und nehmen einige Tausend)

Holen Sie sich schlau, TOI. Es lohnt sich.

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NOVA DELI: India e China ultrapassou países europeus no número de famílias ricas, enquanto os EUA continuam país mais próspero do mundo, de acordo com uma empresa de pesquisa.

De acordo com a TNS estudo Investidores Affluent ‘Global, Índia, China e Brasil têm ultrapassado muitos países europeus nesta medida de riqueza do consumidor com três milhões de famílias abastadas cada um desses países, que têm mais de USD 100 mil fundos investíveis. “A Índia ea China já superou os principais mercados europeus, como Alemanha e França. É interessante ver que o espírito empreendedor das pessoas nesses mercados já está valendo a pena em termos de riqueza pessoal “, TNS Diretor de Negócios e Finanças Reg van Steen disse.

Enquanto os EUA é classificado como o país mais próspero do mundo, com 31 milhões de famílias abastadas, Emirados Árabes e Índia aparecem no top cinco países em que os ricos têm mais de USD um milhão ativos investidos, em média, ao lado de Cingapura e Hong Kong. Os únicos europeus a apresentar em cinco top são o sueco, enquanto Reino Unido e França são menos prováveis ​​na Europa a ter esses níveis de ativos para investimento, segundo o estudo. O estudo também destacou que, enquanto a incidência de riqueza seria maior em países pequenos e ricos, como Luxemburgo (29 por cento) e Singapura (20 por cento), este cai para cerca de (1 por cento) na Índia e na China.

“Isso demonstra um grande contraste na distribuição da riqueza nos mercados emergentes, mesmo que o número real de famílias abastadas é alta e destaca a necessidade de estratégias de marketing muito preciso para atingir o público certo”, disse.
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Duh! População da Índia é igual ao da Europa e dos EUA juntos! Este é um artigo bastante inútil. Todos esses números absolutos não indicam nada. Todos os indicadores devem estar em per-capita base e valor em dólar, e não ppp para comparação. Aqui é uma cortesia comparação mais realista do Google públicas de dados Explorer. PIB per capita EUA: $ 45.989 PIB per capita do Reino Unido: $ 35.165 PIB per capita do Japão: $ 39.738 PIB per capita S Coréia: PIB $ 17.078 per capita Tailândia: $ 3.893 PIB per capita da China: 3.744 dólares PIB per capita da Índia: $ 1.192 índios precisam acordar e cheirar a realidade. A Índia é um monte por trás. Estamos nada comparado a outros países. Pare de pensar a Índia está no topo do mundo, e basta colocar a cabeça para baixo e trabalhar incansavelmente! Ciência e da investigação é o caminho para chegar ao topo. Fazer tudo mais rápido e eficiente!
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Chá: 2 euros, Rs.6 Arroz: 2 euros por kg, 30 Rs / Kg Casa alugar: 1200 euros para um T2 flat, 10.000 Rs para o Transporte mesma: 5 euros para passar um dia dentro dos limites da cidade max 40 Rs . Jeans Levi é o seu custo em torno de 80-100 euros onde, como na Índia custa em torno de você 1500-2000 Rs. o custo de vida é muito barato como a renda per capita, de modo que devemos ir com alwayz PIB (PPP).
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Mesmo que o crescimento da população atual é cerca de 2% ainda o número de índios adicionados a cada ano é enorme 2,5 crores (população da Austrália) Todos os anos a população de um país (Austrália) é criado na Índia. Índia precisa de controle population.Indians necessidade de migrar para novos destinos como o Inglês não fala Europeu e países da América do Sul em grande número. Confie em mim um índio vai fazer melhor do que a população local de qualquer país. Ele não vai resolver o problema, mas vai aliviar alguma pressão sobre a população e do emprego.
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TOI, eu admito. Esta é a primeira vez, achei muito inteligente leitores, como foi testemunhado pelos três comentários diante de mim.

Ser estúpido, você, TOI, sabe-o melhor.

By the way, eu perdi a noção do seu tema favorito, “superpotência da Índia.” Por favor, preencha-me entrar Eu estava muito ocupado contando o número de pessoas pobres na Índia, o chamado, muito discutido e igualmente contestada, BPL, Oops , é melhor eu soletrar para aqueles que são milionários, bilionários com renda investíveis de mais de US $ 1.000.000.

47%. Quase metade da população. Atualmente, meu guesstimate, de 1,2,000,000,000 (Um bilhão e 200 milhões, de dar e receber alguns milhares)

Get Smart, TOI. Vale a pena.

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Le chapeau de BPL de Rs 32 reste : Montek Singh Ahluwalia

New Delhi : La confusion de fin au-dessus du seuil de pauvreté ci-dessous chapeau, président suppléant Montek Singh Ahluwalia de la Commission de planification mardi a expliqué que la définition du seuil de pauvreté demeure chez Rs 32 par personne par jour.

Parlant à CNN-IBN, Montek a indiqué qu'ils ne retireront pas la déclaration sous serment et n'auront pas accepté le rapport de comité de Tendulkar.

Selon la déclaration sous serment, une famille de cinq dépensant moins que Rs 4.824 (chez le juin 2011, prix) dans les zones urbaines tombera dans la catégorie de BPL (au-dessous du seuil de pauvreté). La limite de dépense pour un famille dans des secteurs ruraux a été fixée chez Rs 3.905.

Le nombre de pauvres eus droit aux avantages de BPL, selon la déclaration sous serment, a été estimé au crore 40.74.

Montek également dit, le « revenu devrait être considéré avec la caste. Le mouvement d'anti-croissance m'inquiète. »

Ceci est venu un jour après que les rapports aient indiqué que le chapeau de BPL de Rs 32 a été enlevé.

« Nous disons clairement, catégoriquement, et sans équivoque qu'il n'y a aucun lien entre les évaluations sages de pauvreté d'état et le choix des bénéficiaires. Un nouveau comité d'experts sera de sorte qu'aucun pauvre et ménage déshérité ne soit exclu, » ministre installé de développement rural des syndicats que Jairam Ramesh avait indiqué lundi tout en adressant une conférence de presse en commun avec Ahluwalia.

Ramesh a alors continué pour indiquer que le chapeau de Rs 32 sera enlevé.

« Aucun chapeau ne sera extérieurement imposé. La Commission de planification et le ministère de développement rural établiront une nouvelle méthode de sorte qu'aucun pauvre ménage ne soit exclu, » ont dit Ramesh.

La vue de la Commission de planification qu'une personne peut faire face à la dépense de la nourriture de `, de la santé et de l'education avec une somme de Rs 32 dans les villes et de Rs 26 dans les villages avait suscité l'incrédulité répandue et la condamnation forçant la partie du congrès pour entrer dans le contrôle de dommages.

Le Général secrétaire Rahul Gandhi du congrès, aussi, était censément peu satisfait de ces figures.

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Amid controversy over the definition of poverty, Planning Commission deputy chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia and Rural Development minister Jairam Ramesh on Monday claimed that they have resolved the issue. "Jairam and I had a very good meeting. I think we have resolved a number

of important issues... actually all the important issues. I think we are in complete agreement," Ahluwalia told reporters after the meeting.Ahluwalia and Ramesh will also be addressing a joint press conference later in the day to outline the strategy to counter widespread criticism of Rs 32 per capita per day urban poverty line definition.

"There is broad consensus on the linkage between poverty line and rural development," Ramesh said after the meeting, which among others was attended by Plan panel members Abhijit Sen, Mihir Shah, Syeda Hameed and Narendra Jadhav.

Ahluwalia, who returned from his 10-day-long foreign visit on Saturday, had met Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on the issue on Sunday.

He had discussed with Singh the fallout of the controversy relating to the affidavit in the Supreme Court, which said that persons consuming items worth more than Rs 32 per day in urban areas (Rs 26 in rural areas) are not poor.

As per the affidavit, a family of five spending less than Rs 4,824 per month (at June, 2011, prices) in urban areas will fall in the BPL (Below Poverty Line) category. The expenditure limit for a family in rural areas has been fixed at Rs 3,905.

The number of poor entitled to BPL benefits, as per the affidavit, has been estimated at 40.74 crore, as against 37.2 crore estimated at the time of accepting the Tendulkar Committee report.

Congress general secretary Rahul Gandhi is believed to have intervened in the matter and has reportedly asked the Plan panel to do a rethink on its definition of poverty.

Even Ramesh had earlier expressed disagreement over the Commission's formula for arriving at the poverty line of Rs 32 a day and Rs 26 a day in urban and rural areas respectively.

Besides, National Advisory Council (NAC) member Aruna Roy and Harsh Mander challenged the Rs 32 per person poverty definition of the Commission.

Other members of the NAC, which is headed by Congress chief Sonia Gandhi, too had opposed Commission's definition.

Ridiculing the Commission's poverty line, NAC member N C Saxena had said, "on Rs 32 a day, you know only dogs and animals can live... People who are spending below Rs 32 they are poorest of the poor. You can call them destitute, you can call them people living in sub-human level."

Concerned over the public outcry, Information and Broadcasting minister Ambika Soni had said, "The Planning Commission had given an affidavit. When we asked for information from the panel regarding it, we were told that it is an initial document and not the final document."

These figures, she had said, "could undergo a change, who knows some other statistics may come up, which is acceptable to the Planning Commission. There is concern among people. There is a certain disquiet in the civil society and some sections. They believe the statistics are perhaps somewhat removed from reality."

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  • Montek Singh Ahluwalia, Planning Commission deputy chairman, is not a politician. Neither is the prime minister, Dr Manmohan Singh.I am not justifying Montek Singh's definition of the so called, "Poverty Line." Neither do I appreciate the adverse criticizing his, initial guesstimate.

    I don't want to get into a veritable fist fight that has begun on this issue in general and this discussion group in particular. To make myself invisible, a hard act for me, I shall recount a story in the past. It is a true story, with little personal and poetic, freedom.

    No affidavit, please.

    Dr Dhananjay Gadgil was an eminent economist in Bombay state while I was a college student. I have met him a couple of times. He was very nice to me but we hardly talked over Indian poverty. Just little bit on college life, what I wanted to be, my plan for future, ambition and vision.

    Naturally, I told him that I wanted to be a pilot. That was my vision. He laughed. Then suddenly, he said, "little boy, leave flying to the idiots. Keep your feet firmly on the ground and watch for those flying objects falling on you."

    Everybody in my family had a great laugh. Dr Gadgil was a buddy of my sister-in-law's economist father. Puranik was a principal of Hansrak Pragji Thackersy College in Nashik, my hometown..

    Later, Dr Gadgil was invited by the then prime minister, Indira Gandhi to be a finance minister. A lot can be said about Dr Gadgil's career as a FM. I shall not go into it. Suffice it to say that he was beaten up by a staunch politician, Indira Gandhi, as he would refuse to take economic policy decisions based upon one woman's fancy and had to resign in shame.

    While returning from New Delhi by train, Dr Gadgil suffered a massive heart attack and died.

    I pray for the life of Montek and Manmohan. They are in a wrong job. Wrong vision. Wrong country.

    End of my story.

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    AYO BACHO TUMHE SUNYE KAHANI HINDUSTAN KE LEDERON KI, IS MITI SEH TILAK KARO YEH MITI HAI BALIDAAN KI, VANDE MATRAM, VANDE MATARAM.YEH DEKHO, YEH RAJPUTANA ADVANIJI KA LAUD* TAH, EK HAATH MEIN TEEL KI SHISHI, EK HAATH MEIN LAUD* TAH, JAI HO CORRUPTION KI HAREK LEADER BOLA TAH.

    YAHAN LAGADI GANDHIJINE BAAZI APNI JAAN KI, PHIR BHI CHOR, DAKU LEADER LOOT RAHEN HAI IS DESH KE BACHE -BACHE KO, OR CBI HAI PEHREDAAR INKE BAAPKI, VANDE MATARAM,VANDE MATARAM.

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    David Hawks 6 minutes ago
    He is another un trust worthy man like MMS and Chiddu for India.
  • LOGON KA DHAN LOGON KO WAPIS NAHI DIYA JARAHA,YEH DHAN CHOR, DAKU, KAMEENE AUR HARAM KHOORON KI JEBON MEIN JARAHA HAI. CHOR UCHAKA CHAUDRY AUR GOONDI POLICE PRADHAN THY NAME IS INDIA.
  • They will spend 40.74 to help the poor with approximately RS. 39 a day, but some of the mafia politicians commit scams for more than RS. 1000 Crore. THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE THEM ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHEATED BY THEM.
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    Srikanth 18 minutes ago
    When PUPPET MMS, P Chidambaram, Pranab etc can continue in office after LOOTING the nation like never before, why poor Montek needs to go. Infact he is thriving under the great economist MMS in defining Rs 32 as definition of poverty. Lot of old sardar jokes had become stale. Both Montek and MMS decided to give a fresh lease of life to Sardar jokes by this new definition of poverty - Rs 32/-
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Poverty in India

 Poverty in India is a major issue. Rural Indians depend on unpredictable agriculture incomes, while urban Indians rely on jobs that are, at best, scarce.

Since its independence, the issue of poverty within India has remained a prevalent concern. As of 2010, more than 37% of India’s population of 1.35 billion still lives below the poverty line. More than 22% of the entire rural population and 15% of the urban population of India exists in this difficult physical and financial predicament.

Poverty Situation

The division of resources, as well as wealth, is uneven in India - this disparity creates different poverty ratios for different states. For instance, states such as Delhi and Punjab have low poverty ratios. On the other hand, almost half the population in states like Bihar and Orissa live below the poverty line.

A number of factors are responsible for poverty in the rural areas of India. Rural populations primarily depend on agriculture, which is highly dependant on rain patterns and the monsoon season. Inadequate rain and improper irrigation facilities can obviously cause low, or in some cases, zero production of crops.

Additionally, the Indian family unit is often large, which can amplify the effects of poverty. Also, the caste system still prevails in India, and this is a major reason for rural poverty - people from the lower casts are often deprived of the most basic facilities and opportunities. The government has planned and implemented poverty eradication programs, but the benefits of these programs are yet to bear fruits.

 

Increasing Poverty in India

The phenomenal increase in population in the cities is one of the main reasons for poverty in the urban areas of India. A major portion of this additional population is due to the large scale migration of rural families from villages to cities. This migration is mainly attributed to poor employment opportunities in villages.

Since 1970, the Indian government has implemented a number of programs designed to eradicate poverty, and has had some success with these programs. The government has sought to increase the GDP through different processes, including changes in industrial policies. There is a Public Distribution System, which has been effective to some extent. Other programs include the Integrated Rural Development Program, Jawahar Rozgar Yojana and the Training Rural Youth for Self Employment (TRYSEM), and other on-going initiatives.

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    • when will indias poverty end?

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      Mintyfreshxxdx09 5 months ago
      nope theyre screewed

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      Pallabidutta 1 week ago
      there is so much limired information about todays india's  poverty line

    • India's New Poverty Line "Laughable"

      27 September 2011
       Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is under immense pressure as public uproar over the country's new poverty benchmark intensifies. With the new poverty threshold guidelines, millions of Indians stand to lose their food and welfare benefits.

      As part of a new food security legislation, the Planning Commission proposes a daily income threshold of Rs 32 ($0.64) for urban areas like Delhi and Mumbai and Rs 26 ($0.52) for rural areas. The World Bank's poverty line is $1.25 per day.

      See the Slide Show >>> Indian States Vs. World CountriesIn response, more than 25 top economists and academics from the world's second most populous country have submitted an open letter to the Planning Commission, denouncing the new poverty guidelines and calling for a universal public distribution system.

      "It is unacceptable and counterproductive to link the official poverty estimates to basic entitlements of the people, especially access to food," read the statement.

      Related: Poverty in India , India Statistics 

      Yashwant Sinha, a former finance minister and Bharatiya Janata party leader called the Planning Commission's calculations "laughable" and insensitive to what is "a matter of life and death" for many poor Indians across the nation.

      Deputy chairman of the Planning Commission, Montek Singh Ahluwalia, stood by his affidavit as "factually correct" and stressed that the poverty line estimates would not decide benefits or entitlements to food subsidies, which would require a separate government policy decision.

      "The factual position is that this number is a per capita number … and if you're talking about a family of five, you have to multiply [this number] by about five," Ahluwalia said.

      Poverty line estimates in India are traditionally calculated by nutrition intake and results suggest that under-nutrition may be much more widespread than income poverty.

      India is home to more poor people than the entire sub-Saharan Africa region. As many as 400 million Indians live on less than $2 a day.

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A Tale of Two Indias With One United Goal

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 “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.” – Charles Dickens from A Tale of Two Cities 

It has become rather cliché to describe India as a land of contrasts. After all, in a land of more than 1.2 billion people, with hundreds of languages, and a history that dates to over five thousand years, there are bound to be contrasts that have emerged along the way.

See the Slide Show >>> Indian States Vs. World CountriesStill, India is often characterised by the degree of contrasts that exist within the country. In fact, the government and the people of India have come to accept, and even embrace this profile. As one Indian netizen puts it, India is a “country with unity in diversity…all are undoubtedly united by one sole feeling of ‘being an Indian’.”

Here at EconomyWatch.com, we’ve also gotten a sense of how diverse and passionate our Indian readers can be when it comes to issues related to their homeland. From the comments left on our India-related articles to our social media channels such as Facebook and Twitter (Follow us on Facebook and Twitter) our Indian readers have always shown a willingness to share and express their opinions – often displaying a keen interest to learn as well as to educate our non-Indian readers about Indian topics.

Another thing that we’ve noticed about our audience from India is, regardless how diverse or different individual opinions may be, there is one common factor that binds these opinions and represents “unity in diversity”: a desire to enact positive change.

India’s Income Inequality

Few countries in the world exemplify this spirit as much as India. Unfortunately, very few countries in the world can also claim to exhibit the level of financial and economic disparity that India has.

In major population centres across India, the rich and poor live in such close proximity to each other that it almost feels as if they were deliberately promulgating the disparity that exist between the social classes.

India’s richest man, Mukesh Ambani, for example was recently criticised for building the world’s most expensive house in Mumbai named Antilia. Antilia is a private 27-storey building – valued at more than US$1 billion to construct – that towers over some of the city’s poorest slums.

Related: Reliance "Family Tower" Highlights Mumbai Wealth Gap

According to Dean Nelson of the Telegraph, the number of multi-millionaires in India is also expected to triple in the next five years together with a “fivefold increase in net worth” for this elite group of Indians.

At the same time, India has one of the highest levels of poverty in the world. According to the CIA World Fact Book and EconomyWatch.com's Econstats Database, 25 percent of India’s population live below the poverty line. However, there has not been a uniform measure of poverty in India and other studies seem to indicate a far higher level of poverty. The Arjun Sengputa Report for example states that 77 percent of Indians live on less than US$0.50 cents per day. The Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative also estimated that there were over 645 million poor people living in India.

Palgummi Sainath, the rural affairs editor of The Hindu, describes the situation as being one that highlighted two completely different stratospheres. “The urban poor are rural poor who have migrated. We are pushing people to cities but not designing cities to accommodate them. Those who come from the villages are neither farmers nor workers. They are the in-betweens, domestic servants and the like. It is no longer a two-nation divide, it’s two planets. Vastly different lifestyles, vastly different living standards, and vastly different levels of stress and distress.”

Poverty in India

Though there are many reasons for poverty in India, one of the biggest problems that the country faces is a government that is unable or unwilling to assist in developing policies and infrastructure that would help to alleviate the situation.

This problem is a nation wide issue that affects all social and economic classes in India. India is expected to be one of the major centres of economic growth in the next few years, though the lack of modern infrastructure has threatened to stunt the nation’s growth.

Dan Herman, a former program director of nGenera Insight’s Government 2.0, points out that “unlike my (his) experience in China where I (he) saw very broad and quite spread out development across both major and minor centres, India’s development is much more ‘spikey’ and seems to have completely neglected non-urban centres.”

Chris Morris, a correspondent for BBC News, also emphasised a new irony that had arisen in India – where rapid economic growth was being tampered by a slow, inefficient and corrupt government.

“India's economy is booming, the rich are getting richer and the poor are able to dream - but chaos and corruption are still everywhere you look.

As with many things in India, I had a bit of a love-hate relationship with Aruna Asaf Ali Marg.

This was the road on which I drove, or was driven, from home to work and back, most days that I was in Delhi.

All life was there. A little bit of everything.

There was the India of progress and increasing prosperity. The new hospital on the corner, the South Asian University, the National Institutes of Immunology and of Plant Genome Research.

There were wedding halls and restaurants. Students going shopping and workmen building bridges.

But there was also – how can I put this politely – one hell of a mess.

Shortly after I joined the commuters on Aruna Asaf Ali the council knocked down a whole series of buildings, which had encroached on to public land by the side of the road.

Well, they did not knock them down completely, they just knocked down enough to make them uninhabitable, to concertina one illegal floor on to the next.

It looked a bit like the aftermath of an earthquake.

Never fear, I thought, this will soon be part of the new India. India shining.

But then nothing happened. There were legal disputes. Presumably no-one told anyone else what to do with the buildings, so they just stayed there, falling to pieces by the side of the road. Every day, for the next three years.”

 

Fighting Corruption in India

Along the way however, a new wave of optimism has managed to infect the country and its citizens. To put it simply, the people of India are starting to fend for themselves rather than to rely on the government for any assistance.

Three years after the series of buildings were knocked down by the government on Aruna Asaf Ali Marg, “little by little, people, families, and businesses started moving back in to the ruins.”

The tale of Gurgaon – a city located 15 miles to the south of New Delhi - is even more incredible.

Relatively unheard of barely two decades ago, the city of Gurgaon is now seen as “a symbol of a rising new India” according to the New York Times.

A shiny metropolis that boasts twenty-six shopping malls and seven golf courses, Gurgaon is an example of what the private sector can do “to overcome the inadequacies of the government.”

“To compensate for electricity blackouts, Gurgaon’s companies and real estate developers operate massive diesel generators capable of powering small towns. No water? Drill private borewells. No public transportation? Companies employ hundreds of private buses and taxis. Worried about crime? Gurgaon has almost four times as many private security guards as police officers.”

Yet, there is only so much that the private sector can do. Without any proper central planning to determine the scale of development in Gurgaon, the city has now become an “unmanageable city” bogged down by a endless stream of reckless private expansion.

Still, some citizens of Gurgaon are contented.

“I’m certain that if it goes to the government, it will be worse,” said Santosh Khosla to the New York Times.

Other Indians are determined to push for reforms in the government so as to see positive infrastructural changes through the entire country.

One of the biggest issues that Indian citizens are hoping to tackle is the problem of corruption in the government.

Related: Seize Corrupt Indian Assets: Proposed Lokpal Bill

Related: The Cost of Corruption in India

EconomyWatch.com reader Parag Nimishe commented, “Nobody knows what shape the final Lokpal bill would take or what would be the outcome of Baba Ramdev's initiatives. Therefore, it is too early to comment on its effects. However, I am happy that something is being done and people are woken up against the corruption. Now what rests on our shoulders is to ensure that the people's anger does not die down in the absence of any immediate noticeable effect. The struggle must go on and the spirit against the corruption must get more and more intense. In the process, a large number of sincere people would be required to sustain the struggle.[sic]”

The Rise of India

In the meantime however, the Indian economy is expected to continue to grow “in spite of the government” said Vidya Srinivisan, who oversees logistics for Genpact – one of Guergaon’s biggest outsourcing companies.

The private sector is expected to spur this growth through the empowerment of Indian citizens.  An example of this is the Mahindra group, which is one of India’s largest multinational conglomerates. Mahindra group recently revealed a new corporate branding position – Mahindra Rise – that promises to drive positive change.

““Rise isn’t just a word – it is a rallying cry which enables people to unify around shared ideas, values, principles, a way of life or a common goal. It is a call to see opportunities where others can’t and to set an example for the world,” said Mr. Anand Mahindra, Vice Chairman and Managing Director of Mahindra Group, Mahindra is many companies with just one purpose: Enabling people to Rise.”

Backed by a determined population and a responsive private sector, the Indian economy appears to be on an upward trend. According to EconomyWatch.com’s real-time Consumer Confidence Index, India is presently the most confident nation among the BRICS. The Indian economy is also expected to replace Japan as the third largest economy in the world by the end of 2011 according to GDP (PPP).

Related: Comparing India to the World

However, if Indians want to see sustained economic growth in the long run, they will need to heed the warnings of Charles Dickens from A Tale of Two Cities. “Sow the same seed of rapacious license and oppression over again, and it will surely yield the same fruit according to its kind.”

Raymond Tham,

EconomyWatch.com 

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Poverty in India

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Percent of population living below the poverty line, over the final quarter of the 20th century.

Poverty is widespread in India, with the nation estimated to have a third of the world's poor. According to a 2005 World Bank estimate, 41.6% of the total Indian population falls below the international poverty line of US$ 1.25 a day (PPP, in nominal terms INR 21.6 a day in urban areas and INR 14.3 in rural areas).[1] According to a new UN Millennium Development Goals Report, as many as 320 million people in India and China are expected to come out of extreme poverty in the next four years, while India's poverty rate is projected to drop to 22% in 2015.[2] The report also indicates that in Southern Asia, however, only India, where the poverty rate is projected to fall from 51% in 1990 to about 22% in 2015, is on track to cut poverty in half by the 2015 target date.[3]

 

Percentage population living on less than 1 dollar a day from 2007-2008

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[edit] Poverty estimates

There has been no uniform measure of poverty in India.[4][5] The Planning Commission of India has accepted the Tendulkar Committee report which says that 37% of people in India live below the poverty line.[6]

The Arjun Sengupta Report (from National Commission for Enterprises in the Unorganised Sector) states that 77% of Indians live on less than INR 20 a day (about $0.50 per day).[7] The N.C. Saxena Committee report states that 50% of Indians live below the poverty line.

A study by the Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative using a Multi-dimensional Poverty Index (MPI) found that there were 645 million[8] poor living under the MPI in India, 421 million of whom are concentrated in eight North Indian and East Indian states of Bihar, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal. This number is higher than the 410 million poor living in the 26 poorest African nations.[9] The states are listed below in increasing order of poverty based on the Multi-dimensional Poverty Index.[10]

MPI Rank↓
States↓
Population (in millions) 2007↓
MPI↓
Proportion of Poor↓
Average Intensity↓
Contribution to Overall Poverty↓
Number of MPI Poor (in millions)↓
— India 1,164.7 0.296 55.4% 53.5% - 645.0
1 Kerala 35.0 0.065 15.9% 40.9% 0.6% 5.6
2 Goa 1.6 0.094 21.7% 43.4% 0.0% 0.4
3 Punjab 27.1 0.120 26.2% 46.0% 1.0% 7.1
4 Himachal Pradesh 6.7 0.131 31.0% 42.3% 0.3% 2.1
5 Tamil Nadu 68.0 0.141 32.4% 43.6% 2.6% 22.0
6 Uttarakhand 9.6 0.189 40.3% 46.9% 0.5% 3.9
7 Maharashtra 108.7 0.193 40.1% 48.1% 6.0% 43.6
8 Haryana 24.1 0.199 41.6% 47.9% 1.3% 10.0
9 Gujarat 57.3 0.205 41.5% 49.2% 3.4% 23.8
10 Jammu And Kashmir 12.2 0.209 43.8% 47.7% 0.7% 5.4
11 Andhra Pradesh 83.9 0.211 44.7% 47.1% 5.1% 37.5
12 Karnataka 58.6 0.223 46.1% 48.3% 4.2% 27.0
13 Eastern Indian States 44.2 0.303 57.6% 52.5% 4.0% 25.5
14 West Bengal 89.5 0.317 58.3% 54.3% 8.5% 52.2
15 Orissa 40.7 0.345 64.0% 54.0% 4.3% 26.0
16 Rajasthan 65.4 0.351 64.2% 54.7% 7.0% 41.9
17 Uttar Pradesh 192.6 0.386 69.9% 55.2% 21.3% 134.7
18 Chhattisgarh 23.9 0.387 71.9% 53.9% 2.9% 17.2
19 Madhya Pradesh 70.0 0.389 69.5% 56.0% 8.5% 48.6
20 Jharkhand 30.5 0.463 77.0% 60.2% 4.2% 23.5
21 Bihar 95.0 0.499 81.4% 61.3% 13.5% 77.3

Estimates by NCAER (National Council of Applied Economic Research) show that 48% of the Indian households earn more than INR90,000 (US$2,007) annually (or more than US$ 3 PPP per person). According to NCAER, in 2009, of the 222 million households in India, the absolutely poor households (annual incomes below INR 45,000) accounted for only 15.6% of them or about 35 million (about 200 million Indians). Another 80 million households are in income levels of INR 45,000– 90,000 per year. These numbers also are more or less in line with the latest World Bank estimates of the “below-the-poverty-line” households that may total about 100 million (or about 456 million individuals)[11]

The World Bank estimates that 80% of India's population lives on less than $2 a day[12][13] which means a higher proportion of its population lives on less than $2 per day as compared with sub-Saharan Africa.[13]

[edit] Impact of poverty

Since the 1950s, the Indian government and non-governmental organizations have initiated several programs to alleviate poverty, including subsidizing food and other necessities, increased access to loans, improving agricultural techniques and price supports, and promoting education and family planning. These measures have helped eliminate famines, cut absolute poverty levels by more than half, and reduced illiteracy and malnutrition.[14]

Presence of a massive parallel economy in the form of black (hidden) money stashed in overseas tax havens and underutilisation of foreign aid have also contributed to the slow pace of poverty alleviation in India.[15][16][17]

Although the Indian economy has grown steadily over the last two decades, its growth has been uneven when comparing different social groups, economic groups, geographic regions, and rural and urban areas.[18][14] Between 1999 and 2008, the annualized growth rates for Gujarat (8.8%), Haryana (8.7%), or Delhi (7.4%) were much higher than for Bihar (5.1%), Uttar Pradesh (4.4%), or Madhya Pradesh (3.5%).[19] Poverty rates in rural Orissa (43%) and rural Bihar (41%) are among the world's most extreme.[20]

Despite significant economic progress, one quarter of the nation's population earns less than the government-specified poverty threshold of 12 rupees per day (approximately US$ 0.25).

According to a recently released World Bank report, India is on track to meet its poverty reduction goals. However by 2015, an estimated 53 million people will still live in extreme poverty and 23.6% of the population will still live under US$1.25 per day. This number is expected to reduce to 20.3% or 268 million people by 2020.[21] However, at the same time, the effects of the worldwide recession in 2009 have plunged 100 million more Indians into poverty than there were in 2004, increasing the effective poverty rate from 27.5% to 37.2%.[22]

As per the 2001 census, 35.5% of Indian households availed of banking services, 35.1% owned a radio or transistor, 31.6% a television, 9.1% a phone, 43.7% a bicycle, 11.7% a scooter, motorcycle or a moped, and 2.5% a car, jeep or van; 34.5% of the households had none of these assets.[23] According to Department of Telecommunications of India the phone density has reached 33.23% by December 2008 and has an annual growth of 40%.[24] This tallies with the fact that a family of four with an annual income of 1.37 lakh rupees could afford some of these luxury items.

[edit] Causes of poverty in India

[edit] Caste system

Further information: Caste system in India

According to S. M. Michael, Dalits constitute the bulk of poor and unemployed.[25]

According to William A. Haviland, casteism is widespread in rural areas, and continues to segregate Dalits.[26] Others, however, have noted the steady rise and empowerment of the Dalits through social reforms and the implementation of reservations in employment and benefits.[27][28]

Caste explanations of poverty fail to account for the urban/rural divide. Using the UN definition of poverty, 65% of rural forward castes are below the poverty line.[29]

[edit] India's economic policies

A rural worker drying cow dung in Bihar.

In 1947, the average annual income in India was US$439, compared with US$619 for China, US$770 for South Korea, and US$936 for Taiwan. By 1999, the numbers were US$1,818; US$3,259; US$13,317; and US$15,720, respectively.[30] (numbers are in 1990 international Maddison dollars) In other words, the average income in India was not much different from South Korea in 1947, but South Korea became a developed country by 2000s. At the same time, India was left as one of the world's poorer countries.

License Raj refers to the elaborate licenses, regulations and the accompanying red tape that were required to set up and run business in India between 1947 and 1990.[31] The License Raj was a result of India's decision to have a planned economy, where all aspects of the economy are controlled by the state and licenses were given to a select few. Corruption flourished under this system.[32]

The labyrinthine bureaucracy often led to absurd restrictions - up to 80 agencies had to be satisfied before a firm could be granted a licence to produce and the state would decide what was produced, how much, at what price and what sources of capital were used.
—BBC[33]

India had started out in the 1950s with:[34] high growth rates, openness to trade and investment, a promotional state, social expenditure awareness and macro stability but ended the 1980s with:[34] low growth rates, closure to trade and investment, a license-obsessed, restrictive state (License Raj), inability to sustain social expenditures and macro instability, indeed crisis.

Poverty has decreased significantly since reforms were started in the 1980s.[35][36]

Also:

  • Over-reliance on agriculture. There is a surplus of labour in agriculture. Farmers are a large vote bank and use their votes to resist reallocation of land for higher-income industrial projects. While services and industry have grown at double digit figures, agriculture growth rate has dropped from 4.8% to 2%. About 60% of the population depends on agriculture whereas the contribution of agriculture to the GDP is about 18%.[37]
  • High population growth rate, although demographers generally agree that this is a symptom rather than cause of poverty.

[edit] Liberalization policies and their effects

Other points of view hold that the economic reforms[clarification needed] initiated in the early 1990s are responsible for the collapse of rural economies and the agrarian crisis currently underway. As journalist and the Rural Affairs editor for The Hindu, P Sainath describes in his reports on the rural economy in India, the level of inequality has risen to extraordinary levels, when at the same time, hunger in India has reached its highest level in decades. He also points out that rural economies across India have collapsed, or on the verge of collapse due to the neo-liberal policies of the government of India since the 1990s.[38] The human cost of the "liberalisation" has been very high.[clarification needed] The huge wave of farm suicides in Indian rural population from 1997 to 2007 totaled close to 200,000, according to official statistics.[39] That number remains disputed, with some saying the true number is much higher. Commentators have faulted the policies pursued by the government which, according to Sainath, resulted in a very high portion of rural households getting into the debt cycle, resulting in a very high number of farm suicides. As professor Utsa Patnaik, India’s top economist on agriculture, has pointed out, the average poor family in 2007 has about 100 kg less food per year than it did in 1997.[39]

Government policies encouraging farmers to switch to cash crops, in place of traditional food crops, has resulted in an extraordinary increase in farm input costs, while market forces determined the price of the cash crop.[40] Sainath points out that a disproportionately large number of affected farm suicides have occurred with cash crops, because with food crops such as rice, even if the price falls, there is food left to survive on. He also points out that inequality has reached one of the highest rates India has ever seen. In a report by Chetan Ahya, Executive Director at Morgan Stanley, it is pointed out that there has been a wealth increase of close to US$1 Trillion in the time frame of 2003-2007 in the Indian stock market, while only 4-7% of the Indian population hold any equity.[41] During the time when Public investment in agriculture shrank to 2% of the GDP, the nation suffered the worst agrarian crisis in decades, the same time as India became the nation of second highest number of dollar billionaires.[42] Sainath argues that

Farm incomes have collapsed. Hunger has grown very fast. Public investment in agriculture shrank to nothing a long time ago. Employment has collapsed. Non-farm employment has stagnated. (Only the National Rural Employment Guarantee Act has brought some limited relief in recent times.) Millions move towards towns and cities where, too, there are few jobs to be found.

In one estimate, over 85 per cent of rural households are either landless, sub-marginal, marginal or small farmers. Nothing has happened in 15 years that has changed that situation for the better. Much has happened to make it a lot worse.

Those who have taken their lives were deep in debt – peasant households in debt doubled in the first decade of the neoliberal “economic reforms,” from 26 per cent of farm households to 48.6 per cent. Meanwhile, all along, India kept reducing investment in agriculture (standard neoliberal procedure). Life was being made more and more impossible for small farmers.

As of 2006, the government spends less than 0.2% of GDP on agriculture and less than 3% of GDP on education.[43] However, some government schemes such as the mid-day meal scheme, and the NREGA have been partially successful in providing a lifeline for the rural economy and curbing the further rise of poverty.

[edit] Reduction in Poverty

Despite all the causes, India currently adds 40 million people to its middle class every year.[citation needed] Analysts such as the founder of "Forecasting International", Marvin J. Cetron writes that an estimated 300 million Indians now belong to the middle class; one-third of them have emerged from poverty in the last ten years. At the current rate of growth, a majority of Indians will be middle-class by 2025.

Despite government initiatives, corporate social responsibility (CSR) remains low on the agenda of corporate sector. Only 10 percent of funding comes from individuals and corporates, and "a large part of CSR initiatives are artfully masqueraded and make it back to the balancesheet". The widening income gap between the rich and the poor over the years, has raised fears of a social backlash.[44]

[edit] Efforts to alleviate poverty

Since the early 1950s, govt has initiated, sustained, and refined various planning schemes to help the poor attain self sufficiency in food production. Probably the most important initiative has been the supply of basic commodities, particularly food at controlled prices, available throughout the country as poor spend about 80 percent of their income on food. The schemes have however not been very successful because the rate of poverty reduction lags behind the rapid population growth rate.[45]

[edit] Outlook for poverty alleviation

Eradication of poverty in India is generally only considered to be a long-term goal. Poverty alleviation is expected to make better progress in the next 50 years than in the past, as a trickle-down effect of the growing middle class. Increasing stress on education, reservation of seats in government jobs and the increasing empowerment of women and the economically weaker sections of society, are also expected to contribute to the alleviation of poverty. It is incorrect to say that all poverty reduction programmes have failed. The growth of the middle class (which was virtually non-existent when India became a free nation in August 1947) indicates that economic prosperity has indeed been very impressive in India, but the distribution of wealth is not at all even.

After the liberalization process and moving away from the socialist model, India is adding 60 to 70 million people to its middle class every year. Analysts such as the founder of "Forecasting International", Marvin J. Cetron writes that an estimated 390 million Indians now belong to the middle class; one-third of them have emerged from poverty in the last ten years. At the current rate of growth, a majority of Indians will be middle-class by 2025. Literacy rates have risen from 52 percent to 65 percent during the initial decade of liberalization (1991–2001).[citation needed]

[edit] Controversy over extent of poverty reduction

The definition of poverty in India has been called into question by the UN World Food Programme. In its report on global hunger index, it questioned the government of India's definition of poverty saying:

The fact that calorie deprivation is increasing during a period when the proportion of rural population below the poverty line is said to be declining rapidly, highlights the increasing disconnect between official poverty estimates and calorie deprivation.[46]

While total overall poverty in India has declined, the extent of poverty reduction is often debated. While there is a consensus that there has not been increase in poverty between 1993–94 and 2004–05, the picture is not so clear if one considers other non-pecuniary dimensions (such as health, education, crime and access to infrastructure). With the rapid economic growth that India is experiencing, it is likely that a significant fraction of the rural population will continue to migrate toward cities, making the issue of urban poverty more significant in the long run.[47]

Some, like journalist P Sainath, hold the view that while absolute poverty may not have increased, India remains at a abysmal rank in the UN Human Development Index. India is positioned at 132ond place in the 2007-08 UN HDI index. It is the lowest rank for the country in over 10 years. In 1992, India was at 122ond place in the same index. It can even be argued that the situation has become worse on critical indicators of overall well-being such as the number of people who are undernourished (India has the highest number of malnourished people, at 230 million, and is 94th of 119 in the world hunger index), and the number of malnourished children (43% of India's children under 5 are underweight (BMI<18.5), the highest in the world) as of 2008.[46]

Economist Pravin Visaria has defended the validity of many of the statistics that demonstrated the reduction in overall poverty in India, as well as the declaration made by India's former Finance Minister Yashwant Sinha that poverty in India has reduced significantly. He insisted that the 1999-2000 survey was well designed and supervised and felt that just because they did not appear to fit preconceived notions about poverty in India, they should not be dismissed outright.[48] Nicholas Stern, vice president of the World Bank, has published defenses of the poverty reduction statistics. He argues that increasing globalization and investment opportunities have contributed significantly to the reduction of poverty in the country. India, together with China, have shown the clearest trends of globalization with the accelerated rise in per-capita income.[49]

A 2007 report by the state-run National Commission for Enterprises in the Unorganised Sector (NCEUS) found that 77% of Indians, or 836 million people, lived on less than 20 rupees per day (USD 0.50 nominal, USD 2.0 in PPP), with most working in "informal labour sector with no job or social security, living in abject poverty."[50][51] However, a new report from the UN disputes this, finding that the number of people living on US$1.25 a day is expected to go down from 435 million or 51.3 percent in 1990 to 295 million or 23.6 percent by 2015 and 268 million or 20.3 percent by 2020.[52]

A study by the McKinsey Global Institute found that in 1985, 93% of the Indian population lived on a household income of less than 90,000 rupees a year, or about a dollar per person per day; by 2005 that proportion had been cut nearly in half, to 54%. More than 103 million people have moved out of desperate poverty in the course of one generation in urban and rural areas as well. They project that if India can achieve 7.3% annual growth over the next 20 years, 465 million more people will be lifted out of poverty. Contrary to popular perceptions, rural India has benefited from this growth: extreme rural poverty has declined from 94% in 1985 to 61% in 2005, and they project that it will drop to 26% by 2025. Report concludes that India's economic reforms and the increased growth that has resulted have been the most successful anti-poverty programmes in the country.[53][54][55]

[edit] Persistence of malnutrition among children

According to the New York Times, is estimated that about 42.5% of the children in India suffer from malnutrition.[56] The World Bank, citing estimates made by the World Health Organization, states that "About 49 per cent of the world's underweight children, 34 per cent of the world's stunted children and 46 per cent of the world's wasted children, live in India." The World Bank also noted that "while poverty is often the underlying cause of malnutrition in children, the superior economic growth experienced by South Asian countries compared to those in Sub-Saharan Africa, has not translated into superior nutritional status for the South Asian child."[57]

A special commission to the Indian Supreme court has noted that the child malnutrition rate in India is twice as great as sub-Saharan Africa [58]

Data from The World Bank shows that the percentage of underweight children in sub-Saharan Africa is 24% while India has almost twice the amount at 47%. Out of the 47%, 50 % were from rural areas, 38% from urban areas, 48.9% of the underweight are girls and 45.5% are boys.[59]

Malnutrition is often associated with diseases like diarrhea, malaria and measles due to the lack of access in health care which are also linked to the problem of poverty. The United Nations had estimated that “2.1 million Indian children die before reaching the age of 5 every year – four every minute”.[60]

The Indian government had come up with the Integrated Childhood Development Service (ICDS) in 1975 to combat the problem of malnutrition in the country. ICDS is the world’s largest child development program but its effects on the problem in India are limited.[61] This is because the program failed to focus on children under 3, the group that should receive the most help from the ICDS. This is due to the fact that most growth retardation would have developed during the age of 2 and are mostly irreversible.[62] With the lack of help, the chances that newborn babies are unable to develop fully would be higher. The quality of ICDS centers also varies from states to states and often, the states with the most serious problem of malnutrition have the lowest amount of help given.[63] Examples are “Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Orissa and Madhya Pradesh, all rank in the bottom ten in terms of ICDS coverage”.[64] Despite the poor distribution of help, the ICDS is still considered to be efficient in improving the health of the children in the country.[65] Statistics from UNICEF shows that the mortality rate of children under 5 has improved from 118 per 1000 live births in 1990 to 66 in the year 2009.[66]

However, malnutrition is still a problem for India; it has been found that “micronutrient deficiencies alone may cost India US$2.5 billion annually”.[67]Malnutrition can lead to children not being able to attend school or perform to their fullest potential, which in turn leads to a decrease in labor productivity, affecting India’s economic growth as a whole.

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